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PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 10:24 pm 
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Thats the point I was trying to put across to him but he has just used it as another forum for attacking private hire drivers.

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If you had a clue about me, then it would be obvious to you that i have made no comments on the Licensed private Hire trade anywhere else in G.B apart from the London Minicab trade.

As you like saying Mr PYE, get your facts right, and don't try to rally the PH drivers on the forum to your cause.

Be a man, and discuss it with me direct, don't hide behind others.


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For the record I do love all things PH. :D

But what your asking is impossible in all cases of firms with more than a few drivers. At times even the smallest firms have dozens of jobs outstanding, sometimes hundreds.



Until you get a plate. :? :wink:

If the smallest of firms have got 'hundreds' of jobs outsatanding, you'd better try telling the hundreds of minicab drivers I witness daily hanging around their respective offices, looking somewhat bored.

Women, despite what you may think, are not stupid.

They will ask what car is picking them up.

They can see from the cars plates or window stickers if its legit.

They can see from the nice shiney large ID card the driver is required to wear, whether he is licensed by the PCO.

All of the above is without signage.

Signange IN LONDON will increase touting overnight two fold.

Its simple, if people see a licensed vehicle, a 'taxi' (in their eyes) sitting there, they will approach the vehicle and try to get a cheap deal, and the less scrupulous drivers in the minicab industry, of which there are regretabley many thousands, will use it to their full advantage.

Its straightforward really, if you want to pick up of the street, do the 'effing knowledge. :x


You really are one [edited by admin] [edited by admin] arnt you. We are talking about an incident in Glasgow the cars have differant sinage. You fool


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Radioman wrote:
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Thats the point I was trying to put across to him but he has just used it as another forum for attacking private hire drivers.

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If you had a clue about me, then it would be obvious to you that i have made no comments on the Licensed private Hire trade anywhere else in G.B apart from the London Minicab trade.

As you like saying Mr PYE, get your facts right, and don't try to rally the PH drivers on the forum to your cause.

Be a man, and discuss it with me direct, don't hide behind others.


Your a pratt. The article was regarding an incident in Glasgow. I replied with the information regarding sinage of private hire vehicles in Glasgow.

Your the pratt that turned this into another one of your anit-London private hire arguments.


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You really are one [edited by admin] [edited by admin] arnt you. We are talking about an incident in Glasgow the cars have differant sinage. You fool


Now keep your father out of this.

Its nothing to do with him.


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And for the second time, its SIGNAGE, not sinage.

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Radioman wrote:
Your a pratt. .


I've just told you.

Keep your father out of this, its nothing to do with him. :lol:


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Radioman wrote:

Your a pratt. The article was regarding an incident in Glasgow. I replied with the information regarding sinage of private hire vehicles in Glasgow.

Your the pratt that turned this into another one of your anit-London private hire arguments.



A very rich pratt at that.

Keep selling those radios, and i'll keep driving taxi's. :wink:

May your bollox swell to the size of footballs and burst. :wink:


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Iam with Sussex on this one I to love all things PH :D :D :D

In Edinburgh all PH have plates on the outside (front and back) and inside (on dash) of the cab so it quite simple no plate don’t get in and I think that most PH through out the country have plates on them so even if you are not familiar with the area you should be looking for a plated PH car as not all PH cars have adverts on them.

I have hand jobs dropping off in Glasgow and there PH cars are well marked as PH so how this girl did not know she was not getting in to a PH car is beyond me. The simple thing to do is ask to see the drivers badge if you are not from that area to be sure that it is a PH or taxi that you are getting in to. I know that under the council rules here you have to wear you badge at all time when working and show it if requested to do so and if you don’t the passenger can refuse to pay the fare and if PC Plumb or cab office catch you its a fine you get as well.

when I get a job I do the callback if one has been requested as Sussex says some jobs are not booked from a mobile and before I let them in to the car I ask them there name and then tell them or ask them where we are heading and that way they know that they are getting in to the right car and that I have the right passenger. Incorrect name and the doors stay locked.


And a point for greenbadgecabby
you talk about " private hire company’s giving details of the registration number of the cars and the identity of the drivers that have been sent to pick up people" does your company do that and what about the street cabs that don’t work with company’s??? And why if you don’t give a "monkeys about what goes on in Glasgow" post a reply.


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I have hand jobs dropping off in Glasgow

Now that's a place to be working in. :D

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I have hand jobs dropping off in Glasgow

Now that's a place to be working in. :D


You beat me to it.


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you talk about " private hire company’s giving details of the registration number of the cars and the identity of the drivers that have been sent to pick up people" does your company do that and what about the street cabs that don’t work with company’s??? And why if you don’t give a "monkeys about what goes on in Glasgow" post a reply.



I drive a plated black Taxi with an illuminated TAXI light on the front, I work for myself as the majority in London do.

Those drivers on circuits can have the customer called when they are outside.

Theres a slight difference you appear to have overlooked chipper, i'm meant to look like a cab so people hail me in the street or walk up to me at one of our many ranks.

Thats not what minicabs are there for. they are there for pre-booked work only.

I'll do the next bit in bold.

ADVERTISING / SIGNS ON MINICABS WILL MEAN, IN LONDON, THAT THOUSANDS OF MINICABS WILL TURN TO PARKING UP IN CENTRAL LONDON AND THE CITY OF LONDON, WHEN THEIR OFFICES IN THE SUBURBS ARE QUIET. IF THEY LOOK LIKE A TAXI WITH SIGNS AND ROOF SIGNS THEN PEOPLE WILL APPROACH THEM FOR A JOB.

Unlike your people in Edinburgh, most of ours have little morals.

You may have a few bad eggs who chance their arm, we have a never ending convoy of them every night trawling the streets looking to steal a job. Thats in unmarked cars with no signs, just wait until they get door or roof signs. Its a license to tout that they could only dream of.

They work 12 hour shifts for what amounts to peanuts in London.
This will be the perfect way for them to increase their takings without any extra tax or rent.


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Radioman wrote:
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1. Well ALL private hire vehicles that are licensed by Glasgow City Council must have the telephone number of the company they work for on display on the rear window. Most also have the companys name.
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The practice in Glasgow of private hire vehicles advertising their companies phone numbers & names is actually illegal


CIVIC GOVERNMENT (SCOTLAND) ACT 1982 CHAPTER 45

PART II LICENSING AND REGULATION--PARTICULAR ACTIVITIES

LICENSING AND REGULATION OF TAXIS AND PRIVATE HIRE CARS

s 14 Signs on vehicles other than taxis.

(1) Subject to subsection (2) below, there shall not be displayed on or in
a private hire car any word, sign, notice, mark, illumination or other
feature which may suggest that the vehicle is available for hire as a taxi.

(2) Subsection (1) above does not apply in relation to any licence plate or
other thing issued by the licensing authority for the purpose of indicating
that the vehicle to which it relates is a private hire car or in relation to
any sign required by virtue of section 21 of the Vehicles (Excise) Act 1971.


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The problem here seems to be that the girl probably got into the car without carring out a proper check of both the vehicle & driver

Signage cannot be blamed as there have never been any simular instances in East Dunbartonshire (just outside Glasgow) where all they have is a sheet in the rear window

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Theres a slight difference you appear to have overlooked chipper, i'm meant to look like a cab so people hail me in the street or walk up to me at one of our many ranks.

You do look like a cab, as do all the other cabs licensed in this country. But the issue at hand is are you the one that was booked.

This women rang for a car, but she got into the wrong one even though they have signage in Glasgow. The fact that they don't yet have PH signage in London should make it even more dangerous for certain customers, and all the more urgent to change policy. :wink:

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greenbadgecabby wrote:
ADVERTISING / SIGNS ON MINICABS WILL MEAN, IN LONDON, THAT THOUSANDS OF MINICABS WILL TURN TO PARKING UP IN CENTRAL LONDON AND THE CITY OF LONDON, WHEN THEIR OFFICES IN THE SUBURBS ARE QUIET. IF THEY LOOK LIKE A TAXI WITH SIGNS AND ROOF SIGNS THEN PEOPLE WILL APPROACH THEM FOR A JOB.

I disagree.

That said, if the PCO do allow proper signage then they should increase their enforcement activities. :wink:

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