Taxi Driver Online

I agree with sussex, it has to be enhanced for all who do/might come into contact with kids. rembering also we are, in most cases on a one to one situation as well.

in my opinion anyway

Just got back in from taking all the kiddies home. No school tomorrow so guess they can go out clubbing

I think one of the questions you need to ask is if a standard disclosure is not sufficient for taxi drivers then why when taxi drivers was included in the eligibility of disclosures was two possiblilities that of standard or enhanced made available? Surely it should only allow for enhanced disclosures? Drat those Human Rights! We British haven't quite got the hang of being citizens rather than subjects yet have we

And just to be really playing by the rules, the requirement for disclosure checking is NOT compulsary. The Rehab of Offenders Act only allows for the disclosure of information not the requirement for disclosure. Does this mean that for the council to require hackney carriage drivers to require a crb check it needs to issue byelaws because they are imposing conditions of granting of a licence? - this is just playing really it doesn't involve my case at all.

My own personal view is if licensing authorities are so sad that they need to live on gossip and unsupported or uncolloborated rumour then that's fine by me as long as it does not cost me any money, i have nothing to hide, but if they take me off the road for 6 weeks and cost me £3,000 in lost earnings then they'd better have good grounds for it - which they don't.

Kevin

We are now exempt from the RoOA.

Which was done by the gov, at the behest of licensing officers, to make taxi/PH drivers eligible for enhanced CRB checks.

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My view is that LOs insist on an enhanced check so if anything does go wrong, they can point the blame elsewhere and keep their jobs.

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And your view is wrong. There is no requirement in law for LA's to carry out CRB checks at all, it is the case that many (not all) choose to do so. Those that choose an enhanced disclosure, are acting outside their brief."Fact" (Karl Pilkington)

lol

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I've actually found an answer specific to taxis on CRB here:
http://www.crb.gov.uk/Default.aspx?page=289&qid=503

Quote:
Can I apply for a CRB check on my taxi drivers?

Yes. Taxi drivers can be CRB checked. To obtain a hackney or private licence, drivers must have a CRB check. Taxi drivers are entitled to at least a Standard CRB check. An Enhanced CRB check is available to those who are likely to be regularly in sole charge of passengers aged under 18 or vulnerable adults. Local authorities may feel, for example that it is likely that local taxi firms will be engaged by schools on contracts to transport children to and from school and therefore request drivers are checked to an Enhanced level. Decisions regarding the level of check are to be made by the Registered Body involved.

WTF does that mean?

To me:

Can be checked;

Must have a CRB check;

Entitled to a standard CRB check.

To me the three italicised words mean three very different things, so it hardly clarifies things.

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I agree with you on that much. It is of Course, highly unlikely that the CRB would say it was uneccesary to check taxi drivers, is it? But since when was it made compulsory nationwide? I attended a licensing committee meeting a few years back where it was decided to introduce CRB checks, at first enhanced, and later reduced to standard, as I previously stated, But it was discretionary as to whether or not it was introduced. The drivers picked up the tab, of course.

crb checking is not compulsary for taxi drivers. Neither is it compulsary for teachers or any other group. The law only allows for the checking. Obviously most schools and organisations dealing with young people would take up the offer because it sensible to.
But there is no primary legislation forcing crb checks on anybody.

If I remember rightly from the news about the recent events with teachers the government is planning on making enhanced crb checking of teachers a legal requirement rather than a voluntary option.

Kevin

to obtain a licence drivers must have a crb check? sorry but there is no primary legislation that forces that. The legislation allows local authorties to apply for a crb check not force them to require the driver to have one.

Decisions regarding the level of check are to be made by the Registered Body involved ? sorry but it's the legislation that states what level of disclosure is suitable for each particular instance, not the Registered Body.

If you want to be scared then you need to read the crb chief executives annual report of the crb unit.

You would have thought that it would major on the protection of children and vulnerable adults.

Not a chance, it was predominately about how it could make more money.

The crb wants to start issuing basic crb certificates that any one can apply for and try and get employerd and banks etc to see these certificates before employing them or giving them loans etc. They predict a big growth and substantial increase in business when that happens.

They also want to get involved in the credit refernce business so that any one who wants a loan or bank account or anything else to do with finance needs a certificate etc. And I bet you all thought that crb forms asking for your bank account details was to help speed up your application

Just imagine in a few years time there's a knock at the door and it's the tax man.

Umm he says I don't think you've declared all your earnings.

Yes I have gov, here's the receipts You respond

So how do you afford to pay of loans of £x and your credit cards having £x going through them each month and your only earning £Y? he replies

Kevin

It's the same with everthing this country does "sit on the fence" no-one can make a decision for fear of some group shouting "your breaking my human rights".