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PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2022 12:31 pm 
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June 14th 2021 $50.77 a share.

June 14th 2022 $20.98 a share.


still just a value on a non-existant "virtual" item...

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2022 8:28 pm 
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June 14th 2021 $50.77 a share.

June 14th 2022 $20.98 a share.


still just a value on a non-existant "virtual" item...

Unless you bought shares at $40 plus, and need to sell them.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2022 9:05 pm 
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So even the FT fall, yet again, for Uber's spin.

Uber lose $2.7 billion in three months but because they say they had $382 million of free cash flow, and they say they have more drivers, the markets love them again.

Mugs, and to think these mugs are investing our pension money. #-o

Uber reports positive cash flow for the first time

https://www.ft.com/content/a454447f-c0b ... 81f1b7717e

Uber has recorded its first-ever cash flow positive quarter, after burning through $25bn since being founded 13 years ago in its rush towards rapid global expansion.

The lossmaking Silicon Valley group, which has relied on heavily subsidised rides to shake up the taxi industry worldwide, said it generated free cash flow of $382mn in the three months to the end of June.

That is significantly higher than the $109mn analysts had been predicting, according to data from S&P Capital IQ. Free cash flow is defined as cash flow from operations minus capital expenditures.

“This marks a new phase for Uber, self-funding future growth with disciplined capital allocation, while maximising long-term returns for shareholders,” said Nelson Chai, the company’s chief financial officer.

Uber’s share price was up more than 17 per cent by Tuesday afternoon.

“It is the one thing that all investors were waiting for: for the company to finally hit free cash flow profitability and, more importantly, sustain it,” said Youssef Squali, an analyst with Truist Securities.

The company had said earlier this year it would rein in spending to meet the goal of reaching free cash flow positivity by the end of 2022.

This included reducing driver incentives and slowing corporate hiring, making it one of several tech companies to ease up on recruitment in response to the downturn in the value of tech stocks.

The company still posted a quarterly net loss of $2.6bn, $1.7bn of which was attributable to poorly performing investments, including its shares in self-driving vehicle company Aurora, Singapore-based app Grab and Indian delivery app Zomato.

Chai said Uber’s income would “see swings from quarter to quarter due to the large size of equity stakes on our balance sheet”.

“While we intend to monetise some of our stakes at an appropriate time, we have sufficient liquidity to give us the flexibility to maintain all of these positions, with the aim of maximising value for Uber and our shareholders,” he added.

The net loss was worse than Wall Street estimates, but Uber’s earnings comfortably beat analysts’ expectations on other measures.

Overall revenue was $8.1bn, up 105 per cent year on year, as the company benefited from people re-emerging from the pandemic. Analysts had been expecting revenues of $7.37bn.

There were 1.87bn trips taken on the platform in the second quarter, up 24 per cent year on year. The number of active users of Uber’s apps grew to 122mn worldwide, up 6 per cent from the previous quarter.

Revenues at the “mobility” ride-sharing business were up 120 per cent year on year, while revenues at Uber Eats, the company’s delivery arm, rose 37 per cent to $2.69bn.

Uber’s revenues benefited from a $983mn boost after business model changes in the UK related to the reclassification of drivers as “workers”. The change means total gross bookings in the country are counted as revenue. In most other markets, Uber counts only its cut from each fare as revenue.

Overall adjusted earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation and amortisation — Uber’s preferred measurement of profitability of its core businesses — came in at $364mn for the quarter, compared with a $509mn loss in 2021. The measure strips out certain expenses and non-recurring costs, such as discontinued operations and payments made to assist drivers during the pandemic.

Revenues at the company’s nascent freight arm, which handles long-distance trucking, rose to $1.8bn, boosted by its recent $2.25bn acquisition of shipping tech group Transplace. In June, Uber announced a partnership with Alphabet-owned Waymo to pilot autonomous trucking “at scale”.

“This is a work in progress,” said Squali from Truist Securities. “They’re benefiting from the recovery and in mobility, that’s their core. But the delivery business is showing some signs of softness.”

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2022 7:33 am 
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Uber’s revenues benefited from a $983mn boost after business model changes in the UK related to the reclassification of drivers as “workers”. The change means total gross bookings in the country are counted as revenue



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2022 7:38 pm 
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:-k

So every penny a Uber driver takes, via a Uber booking, is classed as Uber's takings.

Interesting.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2022 8:15 pm 
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One huge VAT bill in the post.


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One huge VAT bill in the post.



has that case been settled I thought it was still ongoing ?

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Latest article from the fella who has spent the last few years telling the world why Uber will never make money.

https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2022/08 ... -from.html

His view on the last numbers from Uber is that Uber has upped their prices and taken more from drivers to reduce its losses.

However he thinks that will not help them in the long term as more competition will undercut them, and/or drivers and customers will find alternatives.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2022 9:04 pm 
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Back to $28 a share, down about 12% over the last week.

Guessing the markets don't read the financial press.

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Wish I was doing as badly as Uber..

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so 3 years on and shares still not too bad compared to some "tech" stocks and no sign of the predicted demise

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wannabeeahack wrote:
Wish I was doing as badly as Uber..

What losing $32 billion since they came into being? :-k

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Wish I was doing as badly as Uber..

What losing $32 billion since they came into being? :-k



and how much money has Kalanick got in his bank account ? :wink: losses don't matter it's about creaming off a nice tidy sum for yourself

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Wish I was doing as badly as Uber..

What losing $32 billion since they came into being? :-k


I doubt they are feeling the energy price pinch

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Wish I was doing as badly as Uber..

What losing $32 billion since they came into being? :-k


I doubt they are feeling the energy price pinch



fuel costs are up the world over and those servers don't run on fresh air :wink:

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