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PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2022 9:41 am 
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Yes, you read that right - flagfall increasing from £1.60 to £1.70 after 10 years :shock:

Tariff card certainly indicates that fares are very tight - T2 doesn't start till midnight, and for four-seaters there's only 10p for each additional customers to take the strain.

On the other hand, the current flagfall distance isn't too far (just over 400 yards on T1, just over 300 yards on T2), and the new running mile on T1 is going up substantially, from £2.14 to £3.00 :-o

And the new T2 running mile would be £3.62 :shock:


Request to increase taxi fares in Oldham set to be approved

https://www.theoldhamtimes.co.uk/news/2 ... -approved/

A request to increase taxi fares, which was submitted by trade representatives, is set to be approved by Oldham Council.

The submission made by Hackney Carriage trade representatives looks for an increase to fares being paid by the public so drivers can manage the rising cost of living.

At the next council Cabinet meeting on Wednesday, September 21, Cabinet members will likely approve the request.

In a document which provides details on Hackney Carriage's stance, it is said that taxi fares have remained static since 2012 despite the rise in the cost of living.

Taxi drivers have seen costs associated with licensing, maintaining, and running a taxi go up over the past 10 years and are now asking the council to review the fares they are permitted to charge to help them deal with these costs.

The last review took place back in 2012.

The proposed changes to prices would see a taxi fare increasing by 20p for every 117 yards of a journey between 6am and midnight, instead of the existing rate of 15p for each 123 yards.

As for journeys between midnight and 6am, 20p would be charged for every 97 yards.

The base fare would go up from £1.60 to £1.70, while the surcharge for journeys between Midnight and 7am on Christmas Day, Boxing Day, and New Year’s Day would increase from £2 to £2.50.

Another proposed change as part of the new plans includes the charge that can be requested if a passenger soils the vehicle rising from £25 to £35.

The council is able to set the maximum costs and fares drivers may charge members of the public for taxi journeys courtesy of the Local Government (Miscellaneous Provisions) Act 1976.

Under Section 65 of the Local Government Act 1976, should the request be approved, the council must publish a notice in a local newspaper detailing the proposed new fares and give at least 14 days for any objections to be made by the public.

If there are objections, the council has to consider them before they decide whether to confirm or modify the proposed fares.

If no objections are submitted, the new fares can be implemented at the end of the 14-day objection period.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2022 9:42 am 
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Another proposed change as part of the new plans includes the charge that can be requested if a passenger soils the vehicle rising from £25 to £35.
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But the fares are certainly favourable to the likes of these women who need a taxi to go a couple of hundred yards from pub to pub because their heels are too high, or whatever :roll:

Imagine waiting an hour from midnight to 1am, say, and getting a run of a couple of hundred yards and being paid £1.60 for it :-X

(Both the T1 and T2 flagfalls are currently £1.60, both going up to £1.70 by the looks of it. You can only laugh :P Or cry :cry: )


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Yes, you read that right - flagfall increasing from £1.60 to £1.70 after 10 years :shock:

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Yes, you read that right - flagfall increasing from £1.60 to £1.70 after 10 years :shock:

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The thing is Sussex that the average person in Oldham probably has half the disposable income of someone from Brighton so the fares need to be a lot lower to be affordable

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2022 8:57 pm 
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The thing is Sussex that the average person in Oldham probably has half the disposable income of someone from Brighton so the fares need to be a lot lower to be affordable

I suspect that goes for any product/service.

But I doubt the likes of MacDonalds or KFC have limited their increases to below 10% over the last 10 years.

So why should our trade?

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2022 8:39 am 
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The thing is Sussex that the average person in Oldham probably has half the disposable income of someone from Brighton so the fares need to be a lot lower to be affordable

I suspect that goes for any product/service.

But I doubt the likes of MacDonalds or KFC have limited their increases to below 10% over the last 10 years.

So why should our trade?



In areas like that Macd's and KFC are probably cheaper as they tend to have regional pricing policies plus they tend to be essentials as opposed to taxis which are luxuries

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McDonald's and KFC are 'essentials' but taxis are luxuries? :-s

Anyway, you're right about the regional variations, but they're minuscule compared to the kind of figures for the HC fares.

And according to this Sun graphic about the Maccy D's prices, it's maybe not so much about poor and wealthy parts of the country than premium prices at service stations etc, but even then it's not huge in percentage terms.

And although it's quite a small sample, can't really see any obvious premium in the wealthier parts of the country. I'd guess Durham is relatively wealthy, for example, and that Swansea isn't, but Swansea's Big Mac meals are a bit dearer than Durham's.

And although Oldham's HC flagfalls look ridiculously low, it's a shortish flagfall distance, and the running mile numbers aren't too bad, so the basic flagfall figures give a slightly distorted picture of fares as a whole.

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McDonald's and KFC are 'essentials' but taxis are luxuries?


In the mill towns it was always the case that people didn't cook every night which is why there used to be so many fish and chip shops MacD's and kentucky have taken over that role

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as opposed to taxis which are luxuries

I think for a significant number of people, maybe a majority of people, taxis are not luxuries they are part and parcel of their normal weekly outgoings.

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Well looks as if it's going ahead, and this article is mostly rehash and the usual procedural stuff.

But did notice one paragraph, as below. Which confirms that despite the miserly flagfalls and the 10p increase on both T1 and T2, that obscures the fact that the flagfall distance is quite short, and the running mile is increasing substantially. So the two-mile T1 run is going up around 30 per cent :-o


Hackney carriage fares set to increase in Oldham for first time in a decade to support taxi trade

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk ... e-25119513

The amount that a driver would be able to charge if a passenger ‘soils the vehicle’ would also increase

It means that a daytime two mile journey in the borough which would have cost around £5.40 would now be charged at around £7.


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