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PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2022 11:41 am 
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Usual mix of opposing views on the Echo's website. According to some, it must have been the driver's fault, because HCDs are generally 'coked up to the eyeballs'.

Meanwhile, one hoping that the cab is OK, while another suggesting the young 'rat' maybe the type that does wheelies in traffic :-o

I mean, it's quite possible that the driver was at fault, while it could have been the boy's recklessness. But do people really have to portray things in such extreme, polar-opposite ways?


Schoolboy on bike 'seriously injured' after crash with taxi

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/li ... r-25546371

The 15-year-old is in a 'stable condition'

A teenage boy has suffered serious leg injuries after being hit by a taxi.

Merseyside Police confirmed that around 3pm on November 16, they received reports of a crash involving a taxi and a 15-year-old cyclist on St Chad's Drive in Kirkby. The driver of the vehicle, which is described as a black Hackney taxi, left the scene after the incident.

The teenage cyclist was rushed to hospital with serious injuries to his leg but is said to be in a stable condition. Merseyside Police is appealing for witnesses following the incident.

Inspector Gavin Dixon said: "We are keen to trace the driver of the vehicle to assist our enquiries and would also ask anyone who witnessed the incident to please get in touch. Likewise, if you have any dashcam footage or CCTV footage from the surrounding area or on St Chad's Drive that may help us identify the vehicle involved, please let us know."

Enquiries are ongoing to establish the full circumstances of the collision and anyone who witnessed the incident or has any information or dash camera footage is asked to contact Police. Anyone who witnessed the incident or has any information is asked to contact @MerPolCC, 101 quoting reference 22000843047 or Crimestoppers, anonymously on 0800 555 111.


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2022 2:05 pm 
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Very unprofessional but somehow unsurprising given the reputation of the drivers of that city

he will now probably lose his badge and for what ?

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2022 10:25 pm 
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The driver of the vehicle, which is described as a black Hackney taxi, left the scene after the incident.

They will trace him, and the idiot driver will lose his license.

No matter who was actually at fault for the accident.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2022 1:49 pm 
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I suspect one reason for drivers not stopping is that they know that it will be difficult for them to avoid being blamed, irrespective of the precise legalities.

Check out the, er, juxtaposition on yesterday's Blackburn photo at the scene of the PHV hitting the pedestrian. Looks like two hoodies on the same bike, presumably having just careered across the 'pedestrian' crossing, and both on the bike in the area where pedestrians wait, albeit that it looks quite sparsely used.

And, of course, there are effectively zero rules governing cyclists more generally, and any conformity in terms of even the basics like lights and keeping off the pavements is in effect purely voluntary.

Thus even the most careful and conscientious driver is bound to come into conflict with such cyclists and reckless/drunken pedestrians eventually, and they know they'll be hauled over the coals, irrespective of actual blame.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2022 7:44 pm 
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suspect one reason for drivers not stopping is that they know that it will be difficult for them to avoid being blamed, irrespective of the precise legalities.

Then drivers need to work out that bad headlines in the press alone don't get you banned and the loss of your livelihood, and possible loss of your liberty.

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Is that not a cctv camera at the crossing?


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2022 10:12 am 
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Is that not a cctv camera at the crossing?



that photo is to do with the incident in Blackburn being dealt with by Lancashire police but the problem with CCTV is that it only records if someone in the control room presses a button

this incident is being dealt with by Merseyside police

Stuarts penchant for analysing things to the nth degree is causing confusion 8-[

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2022 10:51 am 
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Then drivers need to work out that bad headlines in the press alone don't get you banned and the loss of your livelihood, and possibly the loss of your liberty.

In theory, at least.

But I suspect many drivers will think that in practice they won't get a fair hearing. A bit like the current stuff about the Extinction Rebellion and Just Stop Oil demonstrations, when the system (police and courts, most obviously) often seem unduly lenient and sympathetic towards the demonstrators and the havoc they create rather than law-abiding people going about their normal business.

And look at the likes of CSE and the trade's role in Rotherham, Telford, Oldham etc, and the enabling role of the authorities like police and council licensing. At the other extreme, a driver elsewhere is a bit 'full on' with a female he's driving home, and he's hauled over the coals and portrayed as the devil incarnate.

Then there's the wider political narrative with regards to sexual stuff, where we're all supposed to look at the ground walking up the street and cross the road if we see a lone female, because otherwise we're regarded as a threat to women and might be accused of 'misogny'. On the other hand, it's fine that gung ho, fighting age undocumented young men can just roll up from overseas and are immediately accepted into the country.

Which is a long way from young hoodies on bikes, but underlines the inconsistency and double standards to a lot of this stuff, which is why many drivers simply don't trust the system [-(


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2022 9:18 pm 
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But I suspect many drivers will think that in practice they won't get a fair hearing.

Well, I think I'm the best-looking fella in the south, but some might disagree.

I've never seen a headline or a comment below (so to speak) ever mentioned in court, only evidence and witness recollections.

The short-term panic when these incidents occur should never take precedence over the long-term damage caused by said panic.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2022 9:21 pm 
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A bit like the current stuff about the Extinction Rebellion and Just Stop Oil demonstrations, when the system (police and courts, most obviously) often seem unduly lenient and sympathetic towards the demonstrators and the havoc they create rather than law-abiding people going about their normal business.

A number of them have been charged, some are actually in custody waiting for their trial.

Only time will tell how many get convicted, and what sentences they receive. But I doubt they will be namby-pamby sentences.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2022 9:23 pm 
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Then there's the wider political narrative with regards to sexual stuff, where we're all supposed to look at the ground walking up the street and cross the road if we see a lone female, because otherwise we're regarded as a threat to women and might be accused of 'misogny'. On the other hand, it's fine that gung ho, fighting age undocumented young men can just roll up from overseas and are immediately accepted into the country.

Agree with the broad thrust of what you are saying, but sadly due to years of no action we are now faced with years of overreaction.

Regrettably we are all going to have to lump it.

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Kirkby is not Liverpool it is Knowsley

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bit it is in Merseyside :wink:

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2022 5:12 pm 
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I've never seen a headline or a comment below (so to speak) ever mentioned in court, only evidence and witness recollections.

I would hope not, but the reason I highlight these things is that it maybe provides an insight into how people in positions of power think, whatever the pretence.

It's a bit like social media generally (and even on here), which provides a better insight into how people think, and away from the official version, the spin and the comms spiel etc.


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A number of them have been charged, some are actually in custody waiting for their trial.

Only time will tell how many get convicted, and what sentences they receive. But I doubt they will be namby-pamby sentences.

We'll see, but if action had been taken initially instead of offering them cups of tea etc, then that might have nipped it in the bud, and saved a lot of hassle, even for the protesters themselves who may well live to regret it all, despite their five minutes of attention-seeking and martyrdom :idea:


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