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So what's the problem then?

If no-one wants to change, don't change it.

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IDFIMH

But we are not given a say in the matter Sussex Man, it could change because of the OFT report and my response was in line with my branch members requests, so I'll ask again WHAT IS WRONG WITH ANY UNION, GROUP or ASSOCIATION CARRYING OUT THE REQUESTS OF THEIR MEMBERSHIP.

Again you only quote passages of posts you feel are relevant, my posting outlined why, in particular the T&G, such groups defend the rights of their members. Surely you are not suggesting that Trade Union members have no right of appeal when a government department seeks to change law or legislation which will have a detrimental effect on their business. Maybe if they were looking to outlaw P/H accross the country you would have justifiable cause to argue your own corner, yet you fail to allow anyone else the same right.

Kin hell, talk about chucking the toys out the pram

B. Lucky

Nothing whatsoever, but the leadership should be honest with the membership. Not just telling them what they believe they want to hear, but the truth.

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IDFIMH

Please point out where any Trade Union have mislead their membership.

I would point out that it is fact YOU that assume that the unions stance on issues does not reflect the views or opinions of their membership and you critisise them for following their members instruction.

Again I respectfully request that you furnish me with evidence to back up these allegations, as I for one (because of my profession) am in full agreement with the unions stance particularly with regard to this OFT report.

B. Lucky

Wirral, Castlepoint, Dundee and most editions of CTN.

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IDFIMH

Examples please not a list of names where, in most cases, non-union drivers complain about the lack of action by a union they don't support.

If you have any proof that CTN publish untruths then may I suggest that you point out, giving specific examples, where they have done so.

Please don't generalise, e-mail me with examples if you want to save your bandwidth on the site as I would like to have the oppertunity to seek answers to your completely unfounded allegations.

I won't hold my breath.

B. Lucky

Oh and maybe you could inform us all of exactly what percentage of TGWU members there are in each of the areas listed by yourself.

B. Lucky

Mick he cannot as this information is private, however according to the union its "substantial"

you take the [edited by admin] Mick, do as your members want, like [expletive deleted - don't tell me Wharfy, it was your office's Xmas party last night?] you do

And so do you and all the other Neanderthals who posion our trade with their drivel about an unmet demand. Get a F***ING life for gods sake.

Wrong !!!

Wirral=T&G
Castlepoint=NTA
Dundee=Dundee TOA

All look like unions/association to me, unless you know different.

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IDFIMH

Well as the T&G keep the number of taxi drivers in their union, very very quiet (strange that ), I may struggle.

But please find out for me, because the exact amount of T&G members who actually drive a cab, would be most welcome.

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IDFIMH

So Sussex still no examples of the lies told within CTN, maybe I'll wait a little longer.

Or maybe I'll pass your observations on.

B. Lucky

OH yes Wharfy mate and exactly what examples do you have of that then mate.

You really are starting to get on my nerves MR Wharfie Private Hire, telling lies is really your forte isn't it.

What exactly has it got to do with anyone how many members each group has, shouldn't their inclusion have more to do with the positive input they make within the consultation process.

Objectors are mainly P/H operators who fear their dreams of regional domination could be destroyed by drivers being made fully aware of their rights and for those drivers to be properly professionally represented should the member see an infringement of those rights.

I have nothing against such people trying to protect themselves or their businesses in such a way should they see fit, however I can't understand when people who claim to be union members continue with their membership when they disagree with so many of the unions policies.

B. T&G

How can it be wrong Sussex, I asked for examples.

What didn't the T&G tell its members in the Wirral?
What didn't the NTA tell its members in Castlepoint?
What didn't the TOA tell its members in Dundee?

What lies were told?
Where these lies passed on from the relevant authorities?
Was it members who complained or was it other drivers in the relevent areas complaining about the unions activity?

What evidence do you have to substanciate your allegations against each of the groups you mention?

Come on Sussex, play the game mate, it sounds to me like your only reading what you want to read again.

B. T&G

You can please yourself.

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IDFIMH