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No, what I'm going to do is sit as far away from those customers as possible.

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IDFIMH

So the words YES and NO aren't clear enough for you?

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IDFIMH

What has the "unions" got to do with me ?

I am indeed in constant consultation with the councils various departments, but you seem to fail to understand what this trade is like sonny jim.
There is no point whatsoever in getting more ranks away from where people congregate, the ranks we have in our small town centre are in every such position but don't have enough space for the ammount of vehicles wanting to use them.
Other suitable areas are away from the town centre and situated on private land and trying to convince the owners that they should provide free space to the local H/C fleet isn't very straightforward.

In further responses your reply to Q4 is still unclear, "No, what I'm going to do is sit as far away from those customers as possible." doesn't prove to me that by providing you with a H/C plate the claimed significant un-met demand would be reduced, so however many plates were released the public would still have to wait for drivers to finish their "P/H" work before they decided to work from the ranks. Thats why I asked the question.

You also asked why someone should remain in the trade if they were'nt making a living, well I'll tell you why I do mate, cause I've done it for over 15 years, I have allways enjoyed what I do and I must say that the only thing I dislike are un-profesional, un-caring drivers who think of only themselves and never consider how their actions would have any effect on anyone else.

I would imagine that there will be a lot less 'PH' work following de-limitation, cos customers will be more assured of getting a cab from the ranks or from the street.

My answer to your daft question was a flippant one, and to be honest I'm still not sure if you got it. So for once in my life I will answer a stupid question with a proper answer.

If there is un-met demand anywhere, then I and my new HC colleagues, will do their damnest to meet that demand, no matter where it is.

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IDFIMH

So you want to be treated like a charity?

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IDFIMH

I don't believe that I want to be treated like a charity Mr Sussex Man, all I would like to do is ensure that both you and anyone else has the proper facilities to wait for work when the demand is for passengers rather than for taxis. Then armed with the proper facilties, the correct vehicles, adequate driver training, enforced maximum working hours and other relevant new laws, we can all have the "level playing field" you crave so badly.

You see delivering quality service is what we should be looking to achieve, if we were to go "single tier" it wouldn't be to benefit YOU or your like, it would be to benefit the general public. It really is a question of standards and I get the feeling that your idea is to operate in the same manner as some of the existing un-professional H/C drivers instead of those of us who work very hard to deliver a better level of service than was delivered yesterday. Your argument centre's solely around plateholders who hire out their plates, vehicles or both yet don't work in the industry themselves, you may be shocked by this but the majority of owner drivers agree totally with your argument on this issue. The problem arises when you start calling the whole H/C trade because of the actions of the minority, funny then that you still want, more than anything else in the world, to become a H/C plateholder yourself. My questions were a mixture of enquiries and nonsence, as I knew you would look to dismiss the real questions and focus on the BS. You duly obliged.

Lets look at improving standards, lets look upon the trade as a profession instead of just something to do when your made redundant or until you get a "proper job".

So are you saying that anyone new to the HC trade has to work the hours that you decide they do. Isn't that what you have been campaigning against?

Council decide what proper facilities, proper vehicles, proper drivers are, not you.

I'm all for a level playing field, alas the T&G's own policies don't allow for it.

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IDFIMH

Please point out where I said anyone NEW to the trade.

Nowhere within my last post did I say that the I should decide exactly what changes are made or who any changes should be applied to. I simply pointed out that in order to achieve EQUALITY EVERYONE should have the same rules or guidelines applied to their licence. Or Mr Sussex Man are you suggesting that discrimination should be applied to allow you to exploit the trade in the same way you claim the current H/C plateholders do.

The T&G policies have nothing to do with me, but I assume that they are in place to protect their members, and I doubt that their membership would remain as members should they choose not to apply their requests when forming such policies.

You really do have a bee in your bonnet don't you, and its clouding your thinking, making you read into things that are not really there, think about things a little before you respond as it seems you are "opening your mouth and letting the wind blow your tongue around".

You didn't, I did.

I asked if you are saying, not that I'm saying that you are saying.

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IDFIMH

Can't work out your point, but the answer to your question is no.

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IDFIMH

Well if I was a member, they bloody well would have something to do with me.

I wouldn't just sit back and assume they had my best interests, I would make sure they have, and they do.

So all the London membership (or the majority) support the turning circle premium?

Have the powers that be in the union, not realized that there are tens of thousands of prospective members out there, if only they took of the blinkers that are gladly given to the union, by those whose only concern is the protection of the monopoly premium.

I have no doubt that should the government de-limit, those members will suddenly stop being members, cos they don't give a dam about anything else.

But the good news for the T&G, is that if they use there loaf, then they will get many more members from drivers who they so desperately wanted to keep out.

But not as many as they could have had.

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IDFIMH

dont forget the purveyors of the [edited by admin] system. both inside and outside the taxi game.
they are equally as bad.

Sussex Man wrote-
"So are you saying that anyone new to the HC trade has to work the hours that you decide they do. Isn't that what you have been campaigning against?"

Then later he said-
"You didn't, I did.
I asked if you are saying, not that I'm saying that you are saying."


Confusing to say the very least.

Maybe you should stop trying to second guess what you believe people are saying and try just reading their words.

Lets open the doors to everyone, survival of the fittest (or biggest) is what you deem to be equality. "Give me what I want", is what YOU deem to be fairness, "All H/C plateholders are scum only interested in protecting their plate values" unless they meet my criteria and then they're OK.

You just fail to make any sense at all, you critisise others who fight as hard against you as you do against them, what the blinking flip is that all about. Do they not have the same rights as you, your attitude suggests that you think they don't.

Finally we should consider your approach to driver groups, unions or associations. You detail events where such bodies make an attempt to effect beneficial change for their membership but you fail to point out the issues put forward by each licensing authority as to why such groups demands were not implemented, as it seems you are implying that the representatives of such groups failed to carry the wishes of their membership into the consultation process. You also fail to take into account all of the successful applications such groups achieve, but as that fails to back up your obvious hatred you shy away from them.

It is because of this that I conclude that you yourself are the biggest spreader of mis-truths, you constantly mis-inform the membership of this site and I believe that, in the majority of cases, you fear the good work of these groups, unions or associations will lead to their membership spreading and your own lies becoming uncovered.

WRONG SUSSEX

there is inshrined in legislation the requirement to consult.

I aggree with the guest entirely and am very sorry to see you twisting his words!

you aint prosecuting in court today Sussex you are out of order

Wharfie

Confusing yes, but also accurate.

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IDFIMH