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PostPosted: Fri May 05, 2023 6:54 pm 
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Yes Elektrickery can be pricey if you buy it from a council chargepoint

https://www.thestar.co.uk/business/furious-sheffield-taxi-driver-going-back-to-diesel-after-council-hikes-electric-car-charging-costs-4129662

Shaib Zaman says the new rates, plus 80 minutes-a-day charging and range limitations on his Hyundai Ionic leave him with just £50 per shift, less than minimum wage. And as soon as he pays it off he is going back to a diesel.

He said: “I’m really angry and frustrated at what’s happened. I purchased an electric car after the council announcement of going green but it’s been a massive mistake. If I earn £100, 20 per cent goes to City Taxis then £30 to charge the vehicle, which leaves £50 for 8/9 hour work. It’s ridiculous. I’m trying to pay it off as quickly as possible because the old one was cheaper.”

Mr Zaman says his diesel Mondeo would cost £80 to fill and do 500 miles. Now he has to recharge twice a day, costing £15 and taking 40 minutes each time, worth £25 in earnings. The car’s range is 130 miles but that can fall by 10 miles if he has the heating on and a further five if its cold outside because the battery doesn’t work as well, he says. And it can’t do lucrative long distance airport jobs.


One of my former drivers has recently plated an electric Kia I asked him if the fuel savings which are substantial are to be put into saving for eventual battery replacement. His answer was the fuel savings are swallowed up by the higher cost of the vehicle purchase :-k

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PostPosted: Fri May 05, 2023 9:39 pm 
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The crazy price of electricity has really upset the viability of electric cars.

I've always been a fan but was put off by the mileage per charge rate. But the current cost of charging would put me off even more.

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PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2023 6:46 am 
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Yes. Government has shot itself in the foot by trying to force the public to go electric.

No investment in the energy infrastructure and closing all coal power stations (except one, I think) and poor decision making especially a focus on wind farms has resulted in high electricity prices which will put off many from going electric.

I think there has been a significant reduction of free charging stations across the country in the past year to due to high electricity costs.

Wait another 5-10 years and let's see how the used EV market turns out. Will be interesting to see how many batteries malfunction and the astronomical replacement costs give a few people a reality check.

Already seen that used EVs are depreciating significantly more than ICE vehicles in the last couple of years.


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PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2023 8:38 am 
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Electric Vehicles are going to cause a big problem in just a few years.

I have no doubt that the Charging infrastructure will be sorted out. Market demand will see to that, if someone will pay, someone else will provide.

Range from a full charge will gradually go up until it becomes acceptable. Time taken to charge will reduce and will also get into the comfort zone.
So, if everything is getting better, what is the problem to which I allude.

The Rich, the reasonably wealthy and the “wonder where their money comes from” will be fine and dandy. They will have charging facilities in their 3 car Garages and a fast charger on the drive. The large South facing roof will have Solar Panels and the chimney, no longer used for smoke evacuation, will have a quaint windmill. No doubt the stream trickling through the extensive grounds (like a garden but bigger) will have 1 or even 2 small hydroelectric generators, elegantly made to look like rustic watermills. Life will be good. The cars and the Chelsea tractor will glisten with newness and will magically run for free.

But when the newness wears off, these vehicles will be sold via the Main Dealer into the second-hand Market. The second owners will struggle to find a charging point and will not necessarily have the time (or the money) to fully charge every time. They will plug in where they can, for as long as they can, then dash off to do the work they need to do to afford the Car. When the time comes, they will sell the Car, via a Second-Hand Car Dealer, or Ebay, or We Buy any Car – or whatever, then buy a new second-hand car from those with the extensive grounds.

The next owners will find that they must pay quite a bit, they have to go someway towards the price the second owners needed to replace it and the Dealer needs to make a living. They too will charge where and when they can, for as long as they can.

Then the reality of the knackered battery and the astronomical price to replace it.

Those toward the lower end of the income strata will find that the world is not geared for them to own a car. There will be a grinding and gnashing of teeth. The working class will have to go by Bus, for work, for leisure, for everything.

Since WWII we as a Nation have become Car Owners. If that screeches to a halt in the next 5 to 7 years, there could well be a huge backlash. And that is the problem.

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