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PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2023 1:47 pm 
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Interesting comments about making sub-committees decide individual cases rather than officers. But I suppose it could work either way - it may all depend on who the officers are, and who the licensing councillors are 8-[

But it's all relevant to the recent stuff about 'secret squirrel' committees and the like, and the brick wall or rabbit hole of council minutes etc.

Maybe the transparency of a licensing sub-committee is a good thing, but not if most of it is away from the public gaze anyway. On the other hand, it may be in the driver's interests not to be named, and not to have their dirty lined washed in public etc :?


Leeds taxi drivers risk losing licence after breaching controversial new points system

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/leeds-taxi-dr ... 24505.html

Under a policy adopted by the city council last year, cabbies who clock up nine points on their licence for minor motoring offences can be stripped of their right to trade. The threshold had previously been 12 points.

The change was bitterly opposed by the Leeds Private Hire Drivers Organisation (LPHDO), who claimed it was unfair and disproportionate, but the council said it would improve passenger safety and was brought in under government guidance.

The local authority also insisted that revoking a licence would be a last resort, with training offered in the first instance. Now, it’s been revealed three drivers are due to face hearings within the next couple of months after being among the first in Leeds to breach the nine-point threshold.

The council’s licensing committee was told on Tuesday that all three had previously been given training after falling foul of the rules before. The committee voted to extend a 12-month pilot, brought in when the policy was introduced last summer, to have all such cases decided by a panel of councillors, rather than by officers.

It means those hearings can go ahead. Ahmad Hussain, the chair of the LPHDO, said he wanted all potential punishments of drivers to go before councillors in public to ensure transparency in the process.

Speaking on Tuesday, Mr Hussain said: “We’re happy they introduced that system and we’re glad they’re extending it, but we’ve always said sub-committees have to be there for all suspensions and revocations – not just for minor motoring offences. It’s far better to have that decided by what is effectively a jury, rather than by an officer.”


The LPHDO also welcomed a new council initiative allowing drivers to work for two cab firms. The move, announced last week in the form of a pilot scheme, brings into Leeds line with other authorities in West Yorkshire who already allow the practice.

Deputy council leader Debra Coupar said the scheme would give drivers a “much-needed boost during the cost-of-living crisis”. But Mr Hussain said the policy should be adopted permanently.

“It’s been brought in to stop the exodus of drivers leaving Leeds,” he said. “This should have come in a long time ago. It’s better late than never, but some would say it’s too little too late.

“If it’s something completely new for the industry then we’d understand the need for a pilot. But why do they need to do a pilot scheme when it’s already happening in local authorities all around them, in Bradford and in Wakefield?”


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2023 8:51 pm 
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My view is that councillors are more open to sobs stories than officers.

Maybe the answer for those drivers concerned is don't get in trouble in the first place.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2023 10:07 pm 
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Yorkshire Evening post has a recent article on this subject

https://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/news/politics/council/leeds-taxi-drivers-risk-losing-licence-after-breaching-controversial-new-points-system-4240509

not bothering posting the main article as there's nowt new in it but essentially the trade are annoyed that 3 bad drivers who had already been in trouble for totting up points might now lose their licenses :roll:

If you are regularly picking up points maybe you shouldn't be driving a PH :wink:

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2023 8:21 am 
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not bothering posting the main article as there's nowt new in it but essentially the trade are annoyed that 3 bad drivers who had already been in trouble for totting up points might now lose their licenses :roll:

Yes, that's what the article I posted is all about...

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not bothering posting the main article as there's nowt new in it

That's because it's the same article as the one at the top of the thread :-s


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2023 12:54 pm 
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StuartW wrote:
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not bothering posting the main article as there's nowt new in it but essentially the trade are annoyed that 3 bad drivers who had already been in trouble for totting up points might now lose their licenses :roll:

Yes, that's what the article I posted is all about...

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not bothering posting the main article as there's nowt new in it

That's because it's the same article as the one at the top of the thread :-s



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