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 Post subject: just found this gem.
PostPosted: Mon Aug 05, 2024 1:52 pm 
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In the Government best practice guidance.

8.14 Carrying children
The safest way for a child to travel by car is in an appropriate car seat. It is however unreasonable and impractical for a taxi or private hire vehicle to carry a range of seats to meet the possible needs of all passengers. If the correct child car seat has not been provided, the law allows children to travel in taxis and private hire vehicles, but only if they travel on a rear seat; children under three can travel in a rear seat without a seat belt, and children who are three or older must wear an adult seat belt.

Children aged 3 and over should always count towards the licensed capacity of the vehicle because if an appropriate car seat is not available, they must wear an adult seat belt. Children under the age of 3 do not need to wear an adult seatbelt when an appropriate car seat is not available, so they do not need to count towards the licensed capacity. Licensing authorities should provide advice to licensees on its policy on the carriage of children under three years to provide certainty in terms of overloading and refusal of carriage in such situations.

Further information on the carriage of children safely in taxis and private hire vehicles has been published by the Royal Society on the Prevention of Accidents (RoSPA) with the support of the Department for Transport. Drivers and operators should be made aware of this guidance to ensure compliance with the law and to protect passengers.


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 Post subject: Re: just found this gem.
PostPosted: Mon Aug 05, 2024 2:23 pm 
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also, all dogs in cars should be restrained in a harness or crate...

lets see the reaction to that from the disabled activists

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 Post subject: Re: just found this gem.
PostPosted: Mon Aug 05, 2024 6:12 pm 
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Children under the age of 3 do not need to wear an adult seatbelt when an appropriate car seat is not available, so they do not need to count towards the licensed capacity.

Madness when I first read it, and madness still as I type this.

Not sure how many councils will adopt it. I hope none.

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 Post subject: Re: just found this gem.
PostPosted: Mon Aug 05, 2024 10:27 pm 
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Sussex wrote:
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Children under the age of 3 do not need to wear an adult seatbelt when an appropriate car seat is not available, so they do not need to count towards the licensed capacity.

Madness when I first read it, and madness still as I type this.

Not sure how many councils will adopt it. I hope none.

I think there are some that allow this.
I am sure that our policy used to state something about a person counts no matter what age but I can't find any reference regarding seating capacity apart from Trike tours.


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 Post subject: Re: just found this gem.
PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2024 10:55 am 
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When Plymouth came up with this Gem years ago (before this flawed "guidance"), I wondered if "Get the Adult in, then load 25 babies using a pitchfork, for efficiency" at the trade meeting with Officers.

The idea was dropped.

(I think it was because of the numbers - the Pitchfork thing was just to stress the point.)

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