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PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2025 7:44 am 
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They reenacted the Liverpool incident in Dundee yesterday. Not quite so many people involved, but I'd guess drugs were a major factor here too :-|

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PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2025 6:50 pm 
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They reenacted the Liverpool incident in Dundee yesterday. Not quite so many people involved, but I'd guess drugs were a major factor here too :-|

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https://www.facebook.com/reel/102463327 ... cale=en_GB

Nice evidence for the police, if they can be arsed.

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PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2025 7:09 pm 
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Actually been quite a significant police response, and street was locked down, and forensic officers gathered evidence etc :-o

Latest is that a burnt out car found may have been the Mini involved in the incident...see photos at the bottom.

Feels like that every few days there's a Courier article about cars being burnt out in Dundee...wonder what that's related to? :roll:


Burnt-out car found in woods may be linked to Dundee street fight

Police are investigating whether the car, found at Baldovan Woods, was involved in the St Mary's rammy.

A burnt-out car found dumped in woods on the outskirts of Dundee may have been involved in a street fight.

Police are investigating whether the car, found at Baldovan Woods in Strathmartine, was used in the St Mary’s rammy.

A 24-year-old man was taken to hospital after the suspected gang fight on St Clement Place.

Video footage of the incident has since been shared online, while police say they are following several positive lines of inquiry.

One line of investigation is whether the car – thought to be a Mini – found at Baldovan Woods is connected to the fight.

CID officers investigate burnt-out car amid Dundee street fight probe

It was discovered at around 4.10pm on Tuesday, about two-and-a-half hours after the fight took place.

CID officers visited the scene, just off Craigmill Road, on Wednesday morning.

The Courier’s reporter James Simpson, who visited the scene on Wednesday, said: “I saw CID inspecting the area around the burnt-out wreck.

“The car is destroyed and the ground surrounding it is absolutely scorched.

“CID were making inquiries at nearby houses at around 10.20am.”

A police spokesperson said: “Inquiries to establish whether this is related to the earlier disturbance are ongoing.”

Detective Inspector Craig Kelly said: “This type of violence has no place on our streets and we are following positive lines of inquiry to identify and arrest those responsible.

“There will be an increased police presence in the area as the investigation continues.

“We are aware of videos circulating on social media and would ask anyone with information, footage, or who witnessed the incident, to please contact police.

“If you believe you can assist our investigation, or you have any further concerns, please call 101 quoting reference 1587 of May 27.

“Alternatively, you can call Crimestoppers on 0800 555 111, if you wish to remain anonymous.”

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PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2025 7:18 pm 
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Given the use of mobile phones when this kind of thing is happening, I would be very surprised if the two Facebook clips are the only ones the police have, or will receive.

So old matey boy who burnt his car might well have done that for nothing.

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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2025 2:04 am 
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Sussex, as we all know, some of them aren't the sharpest tacks in the box. Another piece in the Courier this week:


Dundee firebug who torched cars for gangsters branded ‘Scotland’s dumbest criminal’

A sheriff pointed out Darren Gibb was caught on camera after setting fire to himself.

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A hapless enforcer who set fire to himself while torching a car in Dundee has been dubbed “Scotland’s dumbest criminal” by a sheriff.

Darren Gibb was acting on the orders of gangland figures to set fire to three vehicles across Dundee in targeted attacks.

The crook caused £42,000 worth of damage to a Volkswagen Golf, a Toyota Aygo, an Audi A6 and a Mercedes-Benz.

Dramatic video footage played to Dundee Sheriff Court showed the ferocious flames that engulfed the cars, which were started with accelerant.

Residents in the Charleston Drive area overheard a “loud bang” in the early hours of September 19 last year.

Prosecutor Stephanie Paterson said: “One of the witnesses looked out the living room window and could see the silver Volkswagen Golf to be on fire.

“Two to three males in black were seen to run away.

“The Scottish Fire and Rescue Service attended to extinguished the blaze and deemed it to be wilful.”

Plastic on the back of the nearby Toyota Aygo was damaged as a result of the fire with scene examiners later discovering the melted remains of a jerry can within a black rucksack.

Gormless Gibb left the key fob to his partner’s home at the scene of the crime.

On October 24, the 33-year-old struck again after hiring a taxi to an address in Kirkton shortly after 4am.

Ms Paterson said: “At around 5.15am, the witness was woken by a loud bang at the front door and observed the silver Audi in the driveway on fire with flames emanating from the wheel arches.

“The words ‘let’s go Megan’ were spray painted on the ground.

“This related to the daughter of a neighbour.”

Gibb was caught on Ring doorbell footage two days later setting fire to the Audi on the same street.

He again used accelerant on the bonnet of the car, before running away in the direction of Old Glamis Road.

The desperate owner used a hose to try to put out the flames before fire crews and police descended on the scene.

Police arrested Gibb a short distance away and the firebug, who had burn marks on his hand, replied: “I’ve not done nothing at all.”

Gibb’s clothing smelled of petrol with the court hearing how part of his jacket had been melted.

Officers later searched his partner’s flat, where nozzles for jerry cans were discovered in a vacuum pack.

Perth prisoner Gibb pled guilty to three charges of wilful fireraising on two separate streets in Dundee.

Solicitor Mike Short said Gibb “chose to follow instructions” from more serious and organised criminals.

“He set fire to himself clearly in one of the videos,” Sheriff Tim Niven-Smith said.

“He’s running with one of his hands on fire because the accelerant has gone on himself – Scotland’s dumbest criminal.”

Sentence was deferred until next month for a report which will assess the potential for an extended sentence and a supervised release order.

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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2025 2:06 am 
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On October 24, the 33-year-old struck again after hiring a taxi to an address in Kirkton shortly after 4am.

Over in sunny St As, ironic that out of a run of ten fares earlier this week (straddling a couple of days), I'm 99.9% certain three of them were off their face on drugs :-o

(In fact one of them told me he'd just come off a coke trip, and it was obvious by the look of him before he even got in the car that he was an addict.)

Anyway, the first one said he was originally from...guess where...Kirkton in Dundee, which he'd moved out of because it was a dump etc :-s

I told him that where I lived in Dundee was probably even worse, and that in the last few weeks I'd read in the Courier of at least two drugs raids and a wilful fire raising in the area. (It was only later that I realised he was probably an addict, so maybe he took offence at what I was saying... :? )

On the plus side, all three were decent and enthusiastic tippers :-o

So it's good to know that I've gotten something back from the benefits payments that a tiny bit of the tax I pay has helped fund :roll:

(And by contrast, even when cash was king I could have had ten student runs and not a penny of a tip between them. To be fair, they do need a bit of help with those £100 ball tickets, flights back home to New York City, or for that winter skiing break away from having to get out of bed at 2pm for that medieval history tutorial :roll: )


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