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 Post subject: Trafford latest
PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 6:59 pm 
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Many people will be pleased to know that the chap who got his plates from Trafford Council, following a court hearing, has just won again in court. :D

How many thousands of pounds this has cost Trafford Council in its futile attempt to stop someone receiving what they are legally entitled to, who knows, but he sends his thanks to all those on Taxi Driver Online who have helped him. :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: Trafford latest
PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 7:53 pm 
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Alex wrote:
Many people will be pleased to know that the chap who got his plates from Trafford Council, following a court hearing, has just won again in court. :D

How many thousands of pounds this has cost Trafford Council in its futile attempt to stop someone receiving what they are legally entitled to, who knows, but he sends his thanks to all those on Taxi Driver Online who have helped him. :wink:

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Well there were some smug faces in Trafford and elsewhere when the licensing committee placed the unlawful conditions on this mans license. However, they were informed by us at the time that Trafford were in for a rude awakening sooner than they think. That time is now upon us.

Any thoughts Trafford harboured of taking away this mans licenses has gone the same way as their previous attempt when they tried to stop him obtaining his five licenses.

Another lesson learnt by a less than adequte licensing team.

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What were the conditions deemed unlawful again?

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What were the conditions deemed unlawful again?

As far as I can remember they were only going to give him a license for a year. :shock:

Yes I know we are all licensed for a year (vehicles that is), but after the year they wanted their plates back. :shock:

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Taken from the very dark side:

I would have been pleased . But the man who got his plates . Is not a Taxi driver ,but a private hire company owner . Thats patently unfare . There was supposed to be a list of interest , which this man seems jumped . It apears that the dark side, who are supposed to be advocating equality and fareness . Helped him in what way . I dont know . I wonder if any dosh changed hands ?. buscab

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What were the conditions deemed unlawful again?


Trafford council stated that if the survey said there was only demand for the original number of licenses, then the five licenses issued to the applicant will not be renewed.

The courts deemed this unlawfull which was correctly forecast here on TDO. Plates in Trafford are still being offered at around 35K.

How manipulative would that have been if the survey had come back and said exactly what the council wanted it to say? lol

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Taken from the very dark side:

I would have been pleased . But the man who got his plates . Is not a Taxi driver ,but a private hire company owner . Thats patently unfare . There was supposed to be a list of interest , which this man seems jumped . It apears that the dark side, who are supposed to be advocating equality and fareness . Helped him in what way . I dont know . I wonder if any dosh changed hands ?. buscab


For the information of Mr Buscab you don't have to be a cab driver to own a hackney carriage, ask Mr Trevor Jones?

The point is and he clearly fails to understand this, is that Trafford Council acted outside the law when they refused this person a license. In fact they thought they were above the law as can be seen by the unlawful condition they placed on his licenses. The mistake Cab drivers make is that they think the have a right to say who can and cannot own a Hackney vehicle license? Perhaps they prefer to see legislation, which limits one vehicle to one person, and that person has to have a hackney carriage driver's licence. That would play havoc with a few multiple owners around the country who don't drive their own vehicles.

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Perhaps they prefer to see legislation, which limits one vehicle to one person, and that person has to have a hackney carriage driver's licence. That would play havoc with a few multiple owners around the country who don't drive their own vehicles.

Does have it's plus points. :wink:

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From the Liars wrote:
I would have been pleased . But the man who got his plates . Is not a Taxi driver ,but a private hire company owner . Thats patently unfare . There was supposed to be a list of interest , which this man seems jumped . It apears that the dark side, who are supposed to be advocating equality and fareness . Helped him in what way . I dont know . I wonder if any dosh changed hands ?. buscab

But would Mr Buscab mind if he was selling a plate to the PH company owner?

Methinks if that was the case he would be more than welcome to join the party. [-(

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Sussex wrote:
From the Liars wrote:
I would have been pleased . But the man who got his plates . Is not a Taxi driver ,but a private hire company owner . Thats patently unfare . There was supposed to be a list of interest , which this man seems jumped . It apears that the dark side, who are supposed to be advocating equality and fareness . Helped him in what way . I dont know . I wonder if any dosh changed hands ?. buscab

But would Mr Buscab mind if he was selling a plate to the PH company owner?

Methinks if that was the case he would be more than welcome to join the party. [-(
I think Mr buscab would have been highly delighted, if a taxi driver or indeed a ph driver had got those plates for nothing . The trouble with buscab he is to thick, to see the bigger picture . Pehaps Plymouth will help him see that . streetcars


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I am very close to trafford & it is alleged that the man who has got his five plates, now wants the council to maintain the numbers control so he can sell them on. A nice easy £100k.

It is further alleged, that the applicant has to date, only produced one cab for test and that was a wreck and could not come close to passing the inspection.

The said applicant is further alleged to be struggling to obtain finance for the further four vehicles. Maybe he will get the 1st one through test & use the profit from the plate sale to finance the other 4.

If this is true, the man is not some sort of de-reg champion, but a hypocritical con artist.

I hope the inland revenue, the council and the Vehicle inspectorate all investigate this mans affairs.


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I am very close to trafford & it is alleged that the man who has got his five plates, now wants the council to maintain the numbers control so he can sell them on. A nice easy £100k.

It is further alleged, that the applicant has to date, only produced one cab for test and that was a wreck and could not come close to passing the inspection.

The said applicant is further alleged to be struggling to obtain finance for the further four vehicles. Maybe he will get the 1st one through test & use the profit from the plate sale to finance the other 4.

If this is true, the man is not some sort of de-reg champion, but a hypocritical con artist.

I hope the inland revenue, the council and the Vehicle inspectorate all investigate this mans affairs.


FRom wannaplate to Gorraplate, then... as per usual?

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I am very close to trafford & it is alleged that the man who has got his five plates, now wants the council to maintain the numbers control so he can sell them on. A nice easy £100k.

I'm not sure that's the case, and from memory he still has a number of out-standing applications.

But even if he did then that surely makes him no different than anyone else. :?

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littlejack3 wrote:
I am very close to trafford & it is alleged that the man who has got his five plates, now wants the council to maintain the numbers control so he can sell them on. A nice easy £100k.

It is further alleged, that the applicant has to date, only produced one cab for test and that was a wreck and could not come close to passing the inspection.

The said applicant is further alleged to be struggling to obtain finance for the further four vehicles. Maybe he will get the 1st one through test & use the profit from the plate sale to finance the other 4.

If this is true, the man is not some sort of de-reg champion, but a hypocritical con artist.

I hope the inland revenue, the council and the Vehicle inspectorate all investigate this mans affairs.


I've never seen so many 'allegations' in a single post :shock:

But rather than the council investigating someone, I think that the court cases demonstrate that someone should be investigating them. :lol:

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Things that cannot yet be proved, can only be "alleged" as it is only hearsay.

Only time will tell. Wouldn't want a libel suit.

P.S. There are even more "allegations" regarding the applicant, all speculation of course.


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