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PostPosted: Wed Nov 26, 2025 7:53 pm 
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How do you prove someone working off Uber or Bolt

It's not a matter of who is working for Uber or Bolt, as the VAT bill will be down to Uber and Bolt.

They invoice/bill directly and pay the driver a fee less their commission. What the lady from accounts is saying is that VAT will have to be charged to those customers on the full amount, not just on the commission.

So it will be easy peasy for the government to prove, as it will be crystal clear in the likes of Uber and Bolt's accounts.

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How do you prove someone working off Uber or Bolt

It's not a matter of who is working for Uber or Bolt, as the VAT bill will be down to Uber and Bolt.

They invoice/bill directly and pay the driver a fee less their commission. What the lady from accounts is saying is that VAT will have to be charged to those customers on the full amount, not just on the commission.

So it will be easy peasy for the government to prove, as it will be crystal clear in the likes of Uber and Bolt's accounts.



I was told by someone who works for uber that they are considering transferring the payment part to the drivers but via their computers , with a system to automatically deduct their commission. If they do the drivers will at least know how much the customers are actually paying.

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Perhaps they are considering loading the driver's bank details, which they already have, and having the customer pay them directly, and then Uber bills the driver for their commission. Which is maybe what Bolt is looking at.

But then everything would have to be in the open. The full amount a customer pays, and the actual amount a driver gets. And I'm not convinced Uber wants that.

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It's worth mentioning that, currently, in some places, Uber allows cash payments.

So there is a process where drivers can pay Uber rather than the other way around.

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It's worth mentioning that, currently, in some places, Uber allows cash payments.

So there is a process where drivers can pay Uber rather than the other way around.



Uber won't like it but may have to accept more transparency and drivers knowing what the customer pays but if it saves them a couple of hundred million quid a year money talks

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According to DM News, Uber appears to be unnerved by the changes announced by the Chancellor.

https://dmnews.co.uk/uber-updates-drive ... ouncement/

I just don't get it.

The Chancellor announced the changes to gain tax, not because she viewed them as making things fairer.

She hasn't yet published the new requirements, and although I have no faith in this government about almost anything, there is no way they are going to allow the likes of Uber to bypass their tax liabilities.

I know nothing about VAT, but if a Uber customer wants a VAT receipt, they will be claiming VAT back on the whole fare, not just Uber's commission. So will that mean customers will be able to claim back more VAT than is actually being paid to HMRC in the first place? :-k

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