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Private hire vehicle licenses are not restricted therefore they should not be a part of your equation.

When you talk about restriction you refer to Quantity control of "Public hire" it may suit you to enlist the help of the Private hire sector in propping up your argument but if Private hire were to ply for hire on the streets of York you would be the first to complain.

By using York as a model we can see that there are 158 hackney carriage vehicles driven by 268 Hackney carriage drivers, yet there are 491 private hire vehicles driven by 517 private hire drivers. This represents nearly double the number of P/H drivers to H/C drivers and triple the number of Private hire vehicles to hackney?

It is easy to see why you wish to enlist the help of the private hire sector in breathing the kiss of life into your fanciful definition of public service and quantity controls.

According to the DfT data in terms of numbers, York has 44 single shifted cabs making an overal percentage of 28% that are single tracked.

For a large portion of the day or night 44 cabs are absent from the streets of York?

JD

Dick Haswell went through his records, he told me there is no record of a Gerald Grisdale ever driving or owning a vehicle in York? You sure you got the right authority?



lol My name is John Davies, do you have a problem with that? Greenbadgecabby is a greenbadgecabby, Mr cabforce is a Mr Cabforce? What is it you take offence tooooooooooooo? Do you hear or see anyone taking you to task about your anonymity?

I don't think anyone really gives a chit about your anonymity, do you?

If I were you I would Just make sure that you are in full command of your facts before you start quoting selectively from the OFT report, otherwise, there are people like Mr 187ums who will no doubt put u in your place? lol

JD

Are you sure you've got the right dick haswell, Gerald Grisdale has been on the scene in York for donkeys years.

Considering Gerald has been around for Donkeys years It would appear he dosn't know Dick Haswell. Don't you find that strange?

Regards

JD

My question for JD is: - Why do you state "It would appear he dosn't know Dick Haswell. Don't you find that strange?"

Mr Old Man I'm still trying to work out your points re: driver numbers.

I'm also confused about your taxi/PH split. If you have 1000 customers, before de-limit, being picked up by 500 taxis and 500 PH, how will they be worse off if, after de-limit, they are picked up by 1000 taxis?

Or is it just the loss of premiums that's your point?

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lol I think your trying to wind us up Gerald and good luck to you. lol

Did you read the last York survey report? You sound as though you did otherwise you wouldn't be giving it rave reviews? You do realise it was an in house observation conducted on two days in December? You will also note that the report contained information which was obtained from the restricted council database obtainable on this website. You might also recollect if you read the report that the Author was one "Richard Haswell" head of licensing.

You imply you have no knowledge of him, that's fine but considering you were a Taxi driver for many decades and he is the head of licensing and that he also wrote the report which you obviously had to read in order to make the qualified statement that York conducts realistic surveys, then you wonder why your facts are questioned?

Regards

JD

To which points do you refer ? If you let me know I will try to help you to understand



It is not my taxi/PH split, it is the OFT's Taxi/PH split based on factual information supplied by the LAs. The OFT factual figures (Table 4.2) show that a Derestricted area has, overall, less vehicles per population than a Restricted area. This means that if a Restricted area with, overall, 1,000 vehicles (500 Hacs + 5000 PH) decides to Derestrict the result is that the Hac number increases but the PH numbers reduce disproportionally and therefore the total number reduces. There would not be 1,000 vehicles after Deregulation, the figure would be, according to the OFT data, in the region of 835 and a reduction in the overall number of Drivers. I hope that this helps you understand.



No it is not my point. I have no vested interest in premiums.

So if a council de-limits then there is more work for everyone.

Is that so bad?

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But your extrapolation of the figures does not address what I said earlier about unrestricted/derestricted and all that.

And since one of the main premises of restricting taxi numbers appeared to be to protect trade income, then with less vehicles overall derestriction actually performs a similar task but in a more even handed and less arbitrary manner?

That's not to say I believe your thesis, but perhaps you could supply numbers from a derestricted authority to demonstrate what you mean, since the OFT figures are averages and thus could hide a multitude of different factors in play?

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The reason I posted the above response, which was absolutely true, was because I was applying the old adage of ‘Give a man enough rope and …’
JD fell for this, hook, line and sinker and duly obliged by posting the following:-







I was the Owner/Driver of a York Hackney Carriage from 1996 to 2003 and from 1997 to 2003 (when I retired) I was the Chairman of the York Taxi Owners and Drivers Federation (now the York Taxi Association). As Chairman I dealt, on many issues, with the current York ‘Head of Licensing and Regulation’ and his predecessor. I am not prepared to name the current York ‘Head of Licensing and Regulation’ because I believe it would be improper but I believe that you know to whom I refer.

It would be very easy for any ‘Hackney Carriage Operator’, interested in the truth, to establish that what I am saying is true by simply contacting any past or present committee member of the aforesaid York Taxi organisations.

The above JD postings demonstrate unequivocally that he is prepared to make statements, on this site, that he knows are not true. I am not prepared to use the ‘L…’ word to describe JD even though I believe that it would be very appropriate in this case.

JD has stated that I, and the current York ‘Head of Licensing and Regulation’, have made statements that are untrue and this is totally unacceptable to me and, I would respectfully suggest, that it should be unacceptable to the administrators of this site. It is no longer possible for me or, I believe, any other member of this site, to believe anything that JD states.

Having demonstrated that he is prepared to make false and malicious statements on the site, in order to question the honesty and integrity of another site member, and a York Council Officer, I believe that JD’s membership should be terminated.

I await a response from the Administrators of this site.

lol What statements have I made that aren't true?

Regards

JD

thiers no way JD will get booted of TDO, he is this site!

And here was me thinking I was the mega-daddy.

At least when Alex isn't around.

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This is all well and good, and no doubt has people glued waiting for the next chapter, but I'm more interested in your numbers theory.

So is less licensed vehicles a good or bad thing?

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