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I don't quite follow your logic Gerald, but since if JD has said anything untrue then since you seem to be saying that you deliberately engineered that scenario, then isn't it you that's being the dishonest one

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I no longer wish to be a member of. or in anyway associated with 'Taxi Driver Online. I would be grateful, therefore if you would terminate my membership and remove 'the Old Man Of York' from your list of members.

Well that's quite a simple thing to do, just don't log on.

Still wish you would have answered my question first though.

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IDFIMH

Gerald my dear fellow, let me remind you what you have said since you kindly offered us the wisdom of your knowledge last Thursday.

If you recall, you came on here stating it was unacceptable for subscribers on this site to remain anonymous. Those were the very first words out of your mouth, so to speak.



You then tell us that this subject is for adults who are prepared to stand up and be counted?



You then proceed to inform us that Quantity controls deliver the best service for the consumer?



Then you state that it is irrational to challenge restrictions?



You then suggest we take a look at York's realistic survey?



You then reiterate that the York Survey methodology is not flawed?



At this stage I posted a message in reference to your comments about the OFT report, when you said.



I posted another message when I asked you which York survey you were referring to when you stated York's Survey methodology is not flawed? I received no reply.

I then posted another message in response to your opening message about standing up to be counted?

So in what way do you wish to stand up and be counted? When I spoke to Dick Haswell he said he had never heard of you? Maybe you are the silent type who gets things done without stepping into the limelight?

You responded by stating this.



You might recall that I never stated you had said, "you knew Dick Haswell".

In fact my inference to Dick Haswell was to see your reaction to his name?

I know for a fact that the real Gerald Grisdale would have known who Dick Haswell is. Yet for a man who likes to stand up and be counted you missed a golden opportunity to take me to task over Dick Haswell?

I must admit my suspicion of you not being the real article was increasing post by post.

Three days after trying to get a response from you in respect of Dick Haswell I make the claim again and suggest he has no record of you? This was another opportunity for you to take me to task but you disappointed me. Four days later for whatever reason you try to make the point that you are the original article?

We have no way of knowing if you are, or are not the original article? All I know is that a person with the name of a somewhat respected member of the York Taxi trade appears on TDO and starts pontificating about anonymity and that his point of view is the only one that has any legitimacy?

I doubt the authentic Gerald Grisdale would have used your approach but I may be wrong. One thing is certain, I doubt anyone would complain about you using a living persons real name but it might be a good idea to think twice before you jump into their shoes?

I also don't think the original Gerald Grisdale would turn turtle and run away when they are confronted with an alternative viewpoint that they have difficulty in rebutting?

I also suspect that the Gerald Grisdale we are talking about is the same Gerald Grisdale that stood in the local council elections in 2003? Perhaps one of our York friends could confirm this.

Whether you are, or are not he, my probing and the legitimate answers to you point of view offered by TDO and Sussex has brought us to a stage where you wish to run away and hide. I am dissapointed that you chose this route but it is your choice.

Regards

JD

JD the above post is nothing more than a feeble attempt to justify inaccurate allegations made by you.
Even I have known of this gentleman from days of old when Vince Chin ran the daddy of taxi driver forums based around London.
One day, you will admit to your failings.

As for running away, I doubt very much that Gerald is. It is more likely that he (like many others) just does not wish to be associated with you and the liars who seem to have taken over much of this site.

The administrators were asked to dissociate themselves from JD's lies; They chose not to do so, instead supporting him. Says it all, really.

I'm surprised you've got time to post on here with Peeping on members P M's on your own site.

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I wouldn't say you've taken it over exactly.

But all Gerald has done is to quote a few figures that were put to bed at a couple of years ago (or so it seemed), and when challenged on this he has ignored the questions and merely repeated his original assertions and then said he's leaving on grounds that I've yet to work out, so I would say that he's run away, metaphorically at least.

'cept he's back on tonight, so maybe he's changed his mind.



Well you never dissociated your own site with your own lies, so you're being a bit rich surely?

But in any case I didn't quite understand the point Gerald was making, so perhaps he could elucidate.

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Do you really think the administrators are going to take any notice of what you say?

Go read someones PMs.

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IDFIMH

Which lies are they?

Don’t you think that statement is a little rich coming from a person who pries into other peoples "private messages" and "steals documents" he isn't entitled too?

The real Mr Grisdale should be heartened that some of us are sceptical at comments from new posters, which are attributed to known persons in the Taxi trade. My comments prove that I was sceptical about Mr Grisdale and in this particular instance they will remain sceptical until proven differently.

In fact, at one time I thought it might have been you, considering your fetish for multiple nicks?

The real Mr Grisdale is most definitely anti OFT in fact he wrote to the OFT telling them their report was a waste of Tax payers money and that removing restrictions from the remaining restricted authorities would not provide a better service to the public?

I'm certainly not going to treat him as the real article until such time I'm convinced that he his. However, if he wants to debate the merits of OFT report and quantity controls then I'm sure there are many who will no doubt take his point of view and likewise there will be many who won't? Him using my reference to Dick Haswell as an exit strategy is childish and shows the man does not have the courage of his convictions to debate the point that he feels so strongly about. We've seen it with many others on here and we will no doubt see it in the future.

JD

look we all know that the OFT report was written on behalf the "vested interest people" i.e. those people who have always wanted a plate but never had the balls to buy one.

the OFT were obviously aided by "fifth columnist" taxi drivers, and today in some areas, we are seeing the bounties of thier follies.

as for the authors of the report, they no shiv about the taxi trade, shiv about the real world issues, basically they know shiv.

its funny how the banks are fighting back against the OFT led so gallantly by your saviour the man who was in charge of the debacle in Dublin.

What have the banks got to do with it? They're just doing what you'd expect, like the vested interests in the taxi trade - protecting their own interests and ignoring the wider interest.

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I was under the impression the investigation into the restricted Taxi trade was on behalf of the public and for their benefit? Is this a new spin or conspiracy theory you would like the world to believe?





lol isn't this a little extreme?



lol I take it you are not very impressed with the authors?



I happen to agree with the OFT that bank charges in general are too high and I am glad to see they are doing something about it. I think the majority of consumers also agree that these types of bank charges are way tooooooooooooo high?

JD

Do you ever practise what you preach?

http://www.taxi-driver.co.uk/phpBB2/vie ... php?t=3483

The usual suspects respond with their normal bag of lies and unsubstantiated allegations.

Honesty has no place on this forum, it would appear.

Well not when you are on here it doesn't.

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IDFIMH

I suspect you are referring to my statement that you looked in either mine or Jim Taylors private message box and that you stole a document from the TDO server which you weren't entitled and then proceeded to published that document for the whole world to see.

I don't see any defamation in the truth do you?

We have still to see evidence of your version of the truth? If we ever did hear it I think most people who subscribe to this forum would have a hard time believing it anyway?

I stand by my words and those who know my search for the truth in all matters will also know I don't make such statements lightly.

You physically downloaded a document from the TDO server which was found by accessing someone elses mail, you then proceeded to make public that document "WITHOUT" the expressed permission of the author, the recipient or anyone legally charged with giving you permission to take and publish the document?

Now I know you have your own limited version of the law but you should be reminded that ignorance of it is unlikely to save you from its justice.

JD