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I fully understand why you would feel so agrieved when at the time of negotiations you were unable to put forward your own viewpoint.

For me this shows the bad side of democratic union standpoints where in a minority ofcases, such as this, the Union is forced to back its local memberships majority viewpoint instead of doing what it knows are right. I know that Sussex Man will jump all over that last statement like a screaming banshee but in order to properly see the way to go forward we must start looking at the many mistakes we have behind us.

Your local branch is very new, and the reps are in-experienced but I can tell you this they are trying hard and making every effort to ensure that the trade remains as prosperous in the future as it has been in the past.

Lastly I would also like to point out that the only way forward for any Union or association is to listen to the membership and put forward the arguments they send you to the authorities with. They are the most important people within any group and to dictate policy would be doing them the greatest dis-service. This is why the Cab Section have a agenda which reflects the majority of branches and the branches have a agenda which reflects the majority of their members.

B. Lucky

Cgull, fancy getting ill.

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How patronising Mr Sussex Man.

B. Lucky

The point of the policy was that people would be encouraged to post without others knowing their identity.

The presumption was that people would use some kind of moniker so that other posters at least knew when they were replying to the same person, and this just reflects a commom sense approach.

However, some people seem to have taken to posting without leaving any identifying mark. This is presumably either intended to cause confusion and/or because the poster has little confidence in their own opinions.

But please try to use some kind of name, because it helps the other posters.

Dusty

Dear oh dear!

It may be democracy, but it's also hypocrisy of the highest order!

The truth is that the T&G don't have any specific policies, they just change to suit what the local trade wnat.

If the train operating companies close off a station the T&G call it 'extortion' and 'greed'. If the T&G do it, it's OK because the local membeship voted for it.

If they get a plate for free, they object to others doing likewise, and then want to sell it to those who can't get one.

They want purpose built in some areas, but saloons in others - just what suits the local membership.

They want a one tier system according to every edition of CTN, yet in some areas two tiers are fine and dandy.

The want managed growth in some areas, yet in others they threaten legal action when councils propose issuing the minimum number of new plates required by law.

The truth is that the union doesn't seem to have any specific policies at all, except for what local branches want.

The T&G is basically a big union with national clout, but with nothing in terms of policy behind it at all as regards the cab trade, in short all spin but no substance.

And the inconsistencies in policy just demonstrate the self-serving double standards that seem to charachterise it.

Dusty

Well its alright aint it but pillocks like you then identify the people, whilst remaining anon yourself.

you are a t*** at times

Have another read Wharfy, I didn't say anything about anyone identifying themselves, did I?

If I'm a pillock some of the time, what does that make you?

If you aren't sure enough of your position to put your moniker to it, why do you bother at all?

Dusty

Or a t***, I meant to say.

Dusty

if they post anon you identify them some bloody administrator you are!

The problem is that people are posting under different names, with no name deliberately, with no name because they forgot etc etc.

Problem is that you don't even have to look at whether or not a name has been used to tell who it is, so it's difficult to seperate the various identities.

For example, you've posted dozens of posts recently under a guest identity and other monikers, then you come on as wharfy and try to pretend nothing's happened!!

Yet it's obvious that you're the same poster to me, and to everyone else, so what's the point?

If you say one thing under one name, and one thing under another, am I meant to just ignore it even if you're contradictiing yourself?

All peope have to do is log in or put there name on a guest message, if they can't manage that then I don't know why they bother, and I'm not going trawling through people's various posts and identities to make sure I don't say things that might offend them because it's compromised their little game.

Dusty

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Dear oh dear!

It may be democracy, but it's also hypocrisy of the highest order!

The truth is that the T&G don't have any specific policies, they just change to suit what the local trade want.

Not really true, the T&G have National Policies mainly based around a specific act of parliment updating laws relevent to the trade.

If the train operating companies close off a station the T&G call it 'extortion' and 'greed'. If the T&G do it, it's OK because the local membeship voted for it.

The T&G have never condoned ANY permit for work in any shape or form, a local branch of the T&G balloted its membership and followed the majority.

If they get a plate for free, they object to others doing likewise, and then want to sell it to those who can't get one.

I can't remember this ever being a Union Policy mind Dusty, maybe your confusing it with the allegations you made against me.

They want purpose built in some areas, but saloons in others - just what suits the local membership.

The T&G want all vehicles to have European Full Body M1 certification

They want a one tier system according to every edition of CTN, yet in some areas two tiers are fine and dandy.

The CTN initially was a London only publication as the T&G Cab Section originates, as do many others, in the capital. For this reason they publish the viewpoint of their own membership (London) which as you well know object strongly to the licensing of minicabs. In areas where licenced P/H have operated alongside H/C the stance is for the 2 codes to remain.

The want managed growth in some areas, yet in others they threaten legal action when councils propose issuing the minimum number of new plates required by law.

Sorry Dusty, I don't understand the question, maybe with more detail I could try to answer.

The truth is that the union doesn't seem to have any specific policies at all, except for what local branches want.

So its better to let down the local membership, sometimes I despair, local representation is why people join, National Policies rarely benefit drivers immediately but safeguard their futures.

The T&G is basically a big union with national clout, but with nothing in terms of policy behind it at all as regards the cab trade, in short all spin but no substance.

Sorry Dusty but you couldn't be more wrong, the T&G has more substance to its arguments concerning legislation than any other National group concerned with this trade, its the way you and others spin their quotes and members contributions on here that make it appear they do very little.

And the inconsistencies in policy just demonstrate the self-serving double standards that seem to charachterise it.

Self serving.......double standards..............inconsistencies............... are we still discussing the T&G or have you moved onto the NPHA

B. Lucky in 04

And your site software has given up so appologies for the appearance of my last post, everything following a and ending in a is supposed to appear in bold.

Lets try this one

[move]happy new year everyone[move]

Howay the Dusty man, bet ya canna guess who this is, whey aye

Wharfy posing as Mick?

Dusty

In his dreams Dusty mate.

B.Lucky in 04