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So where do the italicised quotes come from then, or need I guess?


From me, I thought it looked a little smarter :wink:

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Seems that the term 'cartel' is causing as much problems as it does when TDO uses it.

I use it in the sense of an agreement to restrict or distort a market, and surely that's self-evident.

And I don't see that the arrangement per se has to be illegal in any way (although there's certainly evidence of this in relation to Edinburgh) nor that all the parties to the agreement have to benefit from it in financial terms.

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I was going to carry on, but I dont think its appreciated :lol:

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captain cab wrote:

The use of the term ‘cartel’ is obviously one designed to antagonise. On the face of it that’s exactly why the term is used in the document.



It's certainly making a value judgement, namely that the agreement to distort the market is to the detriment of drivers and/or taxi users.

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So where do the italicised quotes come from then, or need I guess?


From me, I thought it looked a little smarter :wink:

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Oh, I thought it was maybe from Fasties, but it's presumably from the reborn *********?

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The reborn who?

No it was from me, and it was just the start to be honest.

I still think the term cartel is the wrong one and designed to antagonise.

What agreement to distort the market?

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The claim is justified by the council operated quota system. Illegal.


I'm sorry I dont understand this bit Image

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What's in it for the council?

How about all the headlines the politicians have enjoyed as they've consistently rammed it up the trade over the years. Makes them sound great, except everyone else pays the piper.


Errm, having trouble with this one too Image

and the rest of it to be honest

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Captain if the council interpret legislation is such a way as to allow a cartel to operate it is still in fact a Cartel. The quota system does exactly that. The reward to the council might be some kudos on behalf of the Cartel but reward none the less. Really it is more than that.

Think about ITS and their trading of licence plates.

How can you trade an artificial plate value unless a quota system is in operation?

The market would find its own level and the existence of this business would not be necessary. Without the limit on plates the inherent value would be that of the vehicle and the business generated through the hail and call markets. The more profit the more the business is worth. Unfortunately this is the exact opposite of how a licence accrues its value in Edinburgh. The value is directly related to the over supply of labor and the limited amount of shifts.


This is Turkeys voting for Christmas depending on when the Council decide its Christmas.

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Now tell me Wayne £40,000 for what exactly? :wink:


You really need to look a little more closely at the question? :wink:

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Lets just say you every qualified driver got a plate how would this effect plate values?

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Simple questions Wayne remembe if it's not a cartel why would you need a quota on licences?

The Ph have no problem operating in this market? :wink:

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Strange how the Ph increase but we don't have a demand for more vehicles.

That's right now I remember they don't do taxi work do they? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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The Ph have no problem operating in this market? :wink:

And have thrived on the back of a restricted taxi market. :wink:

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Wayne you are a tit :wink:

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There are a number of errors in the alleged charges.

The first and most obvious one is that the ‘cartel’ operates to the detriment of drivers, who are ‘denied’ the right to operate their own license. This is an obvious flaw, if we follow the ‘Trafford’ scenario and indeed the ‘Edinburgh’ survey scenario’s with one flaw spoiling the entire report, then perhaps doubts can be cast over the rest of the document. I understand a licensed driver can drive any cab, thereby no right is denied, as alleged in the document. Obviously the author of the report knows this and is counting upon the ignorance of others to misinterpret the difference between a hackney proprietors license and a driver’s license.

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Its nice to see your resorting to insults though
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Wayne you are a tit


There isnt a cartel or quota system happening. If there was you'd publish evidence and sit like a cat thats got the cream.

You'd also sue the LA for as much money as you could.

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