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Now that'll be why we have a health and safety policy then

Captain Cab

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George Carlin

Funny how the council in Edinburgh has failed to explain these finer points to the drivers?

I wonder why, they remind you quickly enough you need to have a medical exemption not to do the job, but a risk assessment, nah who needs one?

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All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others.
George Orwell, "Animal Farm"

Do they need to tell you when to wipe your backside?

Do they need to tell drivers how to work out there tax & insurance?

At what point does personal responsibility start?

Captain Cab

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Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
George Carlin

You have lost it!

The point being you don't need a medical exemption certificate that is what they want you to believe, you only need a risk assessment.

Personal responsibility is doing your own risk assessment, dummy.

You lost Captain face it you are just your brothers lackey.



Personal responsibility, you, don't make me laugh a wee laddie out playing maybe but that's about it.

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All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others.
George Orwell, "Animal Farm"

Just so everyone knows the position and just in case it was lost in debacle with Captain Cab.

Any wheelchair bound individual over the weigh of 6 stones presents a high risk to the driver of a WAV (TX). This was confirmed by the H&S Executive.

You do not need a medical exemption certificate not to carry wheelchairs all you need is a risk assessment.

The decision to do the job is yours and yours alone and not that of the local council.

When people order or imply you have to do something without fear of being held responsible, or make you feel there will be real or imaginary consequences for not carrying their request it is not your “choice” it is in-fact "Control" and more often than not to your detriment.


The responsibility falls on you and no one else.

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All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others.
George Orwell, "Animal Farm"

Before a transport provider relies in health or safety to justify less favourable treatment of a disabled person, it should consider whether a reasonable adjustment could be made which would allow the disabled person to access the service without concerns for health or safety.

Similarly, if health and safety is used to justify a failure to make a particular reasonable adjustment, the transport provider should consider whether there is any alternative adjustment that could be made to allow the disabled person to use the service.

(from the new code of practice)

As I have already stated, in my opinion you are being selective in your risk assessment, you are concentrating on a relatively minor part of a taxi drivers day, it could be argued that this itself is discriminatory.

Captain Cab

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Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
George Carlin

Every thing I have stated is factual and supported by the H&S.

I have stated this time and time again.

I am quite prepared to do wheelchair work as long as I am properly covered in the event of an accident. I do not think the TX or the Metro is suitable for the job. The 6 stone high risk factor bares this out. There is no dignity for the taxi driver being forced to do the job while risking being sued by the wheelchair user nor is there any dignity for the wheelchair user being wrestled into the back of one these cobbled together pieces of shi*.


"Discrimination" is expecting people to do the job without the proper training or insurance or forcing them to do the job once you have been made aware of their concerns.

The H&S agree with me.

Even to the point on correcting the council on their interpretation of the legislation.

You don't need an exemption certificate, H&S legislation supersedes all other legislation.


End Of Story

Stop being such a [edited by admin] Captain anyone with half an eye can see the council don't give a shi** about taxi drivers and it's brown nosers like you that have caused it.

Wheelchairs are just the thin edge of the wedge.

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All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others.
George Orwell, "Animal Farm"

Roll on September

thin end of the wedge? what next, should people stop picking up certain races?

Brown nosers? Wow, by that I suppose you mean doing each job as it arrives, instead of making feeble excuses like you?

If you dont want to do the job, get out of it, leave it to the professionals.

Not only do you want a free issue, you want all of the 'easy' work too? No wonder PH have moved in up there.

The risk assessment was purile and selective, pure and simple, to all intents and purposes it is discriminatory.

Captain Cab

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Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
George Carlin

Okay let’s look at it your way.

The TX and Metro Cabs are purposely built and exactly what is required to do the job even though anyone over six stones in weight presents a high risk to the driver.

Its okay not to carry out risk assessments and nor do you have anything to worry about in the event of an accident.

Treating people with dignity is not about a reciprocal relationship. It’s about blind compliance regardless of the concerns you might have. So don’t expect anyone to listen.

Really this is all about “Wayne’s World” and people like Wayne, patting themselves on the back telling everybody what born hero’s they are while avoiding the real issues.

Okay Wayne I have got it wrong so has the H&S Executive and not only that the law is wrong too, but Wayne is right.

Happy now?

This is a bit like your £40,000 it's not a Cartel just a lot of happy Mugs idea?

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All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others.
George Orwell, "Animal Farm"

Garry, you really have a method of picking up the wrong end of the stick, you presume that because someone raises question it automatically means they disagree. You then stoop to the level of insults, which unfortunately tells everyone of your mentality, you really shouldnt lower the tone of the forum as its open and children may become upset.

I dont doubt the HSE results.

I question whether or not it is discriminatory because the risk assessment is particularly aimed at a specific type of passenger.

Captain Cab

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Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
George Carlin

The risk assessment is standard criteria used in all risk assessments required by law. The ergonomic report carried out by the H&S was impartial and objective. No conspiracy theory.

This all started because I wrote a letter to ComCab airing my concerns. I pointed out was not insured to do the job and I did not think the vehicle was suitable. Their reply was to phone the owner telling her to get rid of me. This was before I had got in touch with the H&S or carried out any risk assessment. The H&S advised me to carry out a risk assessment stating “I was required to do so by Law”. I carried out their request and submitted my findings they in return carried out the report. Only to prove me right in every point I raised.

There is no difference between this matter and the £40,000 licence plates. No one should be ostracised because of their views especially if they are prepared to back it up. Suppression only makes matters worse, and then it becomes a fight to the finish with no quarter given.


You no the funny thing Wayne you get to the point where only total destruction is all that matters. You actually want to see chaos rather than some orderly climb down.

Here's hoping

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All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others.
George Orwell, "Animal Farm"

Errm, I actually think there is a difference, but thats another argument.

I am not disputing the actualy risk assessment, merely pointing out it is assessing a fraction of the daily routing of a cab driver, the fact its aimed at the wheelchair bound is by nature discriminatory.

Captain Cab

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Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
George Carlin

It is just an assessment like any other assessment if it was wrong then this would be born out by the ergonomics report it wasn't.

The fact is the driver is at high risk uninsurered and no one in authority is prepared to take responsibility. Not the taxi company nor the council.

As much as you would like it to be some other way its not.

Sorry I can't help.

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All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others.
George Orwell, "Animal Farm"

Let’s deal with the facts.

A wheelchair passenger over the weight of 6 stones presents a high risk to the driver.

The driver is uninsured.

The taxi company won’t take responsibility in the event of an accident.

The council won’t take responsibility in the event of an accident.

The Captain Cab thinks this is discriminatory and acceptable to both the taxi driver and the wheelchair bound passenger.

Fair enough?

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All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others.
George Orwell, "Animal Farm"

You are attempting to say what I am not actually saying.



Five drunks present a potential high risk to the driver.

A passenger not wearing a seatbelt presents a risk

Carrying certain packages on account for businesses carry may carry a risk.

A husband and wife arguing presents a risk.

Assisting a passenger with luggage presents a risk.


As I said, the wheelchir assessment is a mere fraction of the drivers daily routine.

Captain Cab

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Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
George Carlin