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PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2006 3:23 am 
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The thing is it all seems so infantile to me, lets swap stories and methods of, as Skull said "getting even" I am aware of the escalation in this sort of thing, but I just think if you develop the wrong mindset about this, it is you who will ultimately suffer the consequences, it's one thing if you have to use your hands, quite another to use a vehicle or a heavy blunt instrument or a pen or suchlike to inflict an injury on someone for a few pounds, and remember as far as the original post mentioned there was no threat of violence only of a theft.


when I suggested using a pen and suchlike as weapons, it was not to clobber fair dodgers, I was meaning more in a self defence way, if physically attacked, two guys in your car, and one pulls a knife, what are you gonna do, be nice to him coz he's fooked on intoxicating subastances, has no money left and is acting like an adolescent, sorry if threatened strike first ask questions later!!! knife won't be much use to him if he has a biro sticking out of his left eye, live by the sword....


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stu wrote:
The thing is it all seems so infantile to me, lets swap stories and methods of, as Skull said "getting even" I am aware of the escalation in this sort of thing, but I just think if you develop the wrong mindset about this, it is you who will ultimately suffer the consequences, it's one thing if you have to use your hands, quite another to use a vehicle or a heavy blunt instrument or a pen or suchlike to inflict an injury on someone for a few pounds, and remember as far as the original post mentioned there was no threat of violence only of a theft.



Stu it has to be said “you are absolutely barking". You are confusing me with someone who cares.

I am not confusing you with someone who cares


When the chips are down you do what you have to do at the time. I won't be there to make the judgment call.

Well they wont be down for £8.60 thats for sure.



That will be your choice and yours alone.


Your right there Skull but I wont put it on an open forum



I've seen "kids" as you put it kick people unconscious. I would rather it was them and not me.


Yes so have I, and same here


If trueblue2 ever has to defend herself I hope she has the opportunity to do exactly that.


So do I, but it's not that straightforward is it, also it depends what you are defending yourself against.


Violence should always be a last resort but in extreme circumstances it is sometimes inevitable.

Is £8.60 reason enough then?

Do us all a favor Stu and save us the all seeing all understanding social working bullshit.

It will be a pleasure.


If you ever find yourself on the ground with the boots coming in you can rest assured the crap you spout will be the farthest thing from your mind.


Yes, I suppose that would apply to most people.


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TDO wrote:
Although I admire tb2's actions, in situations like this discretion is often the better part of valour, and things like this can easily backfire. And even if they only take a kick at your car, it can still end up costing a lot, and the fact that you've 'had a go' isn't much consolation if you've got a few hundred quid's damage to the car or worse.

Of course, it all depends on the circumstances, and if we all just caved it at the slighest thing then it would just get worse.

I don't quite get this reversing thing though - even apart from the possibility of injury, what happens when you stop reversing - you can't go on all night.

And I'm sure that in a scenario like that there's a fair chance I'd reverse into something.



Well Dusty nobody just caves in at the slightest thing do they, but the action taken has got to be proportional to the level of harm or perceived level of harm does it not?


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stu wrote:
The thing is it all seems so infantile to me, lets swap stories and methods of, as Skull said "getting even" I am aware of the escalation in this sort of thing, but I just think if you develop the wrong mindset about this, it is you who will ultimately suffer the consequences, it's one thing if you have to use your hands, quite another to use a vehicle or a heavy blunt instrument or a pen or suchlike to inflict an injury on someone for a few pounds, and remember as far as the original post mentioned there was no threat of violence only of a theft.


when I suggested using a pen and suchlike as weapons, it was not to clobber fair dodgers, I was meaning more in a self defence way, if physically attacked, two guys in your car, and one pulls a knife, what are you gonna do, be nice to him coz he's fooked on intoxicating subastances, has no money left and is acting like an adolescent, sorry if threatened strike first ask questions later!!! knife won't be much use to him if he has a biro sticking out of his left eye, live by the sword....



I suppose thats a new spin on the old saying that the Pen is mightier than the sword 8-[


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stu wrote:
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stu wrote:
The thing is it all seems so infantile to me, lets swap stories and methods of, as Skull said "getting even" I am aware of the escalation in this sort of thing, but I just think if you develop the wrong mindset about this, it is you who will ultimately suffer the consequences, it's one thing if you have to use your hands, quite another to use a vehicle or a heavy blunt instrument or a pen or suchlike to inflict an injury on someone for a few pounds, and remember as far as the original post mentioned there was no threat of violence only of a theft.



Stu it has to be said “you are absolutely barking". You are confusing me with someone who cares.

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I am not confusing you with someone who cares


No Stu the only reason you made your good guy speech was because of my comments about you being a "worm on the turn". Your low self-esteem compelled you to give us the all seeing all understanding all caring back slapping routine. While being way on high on your mountain top.

When the chips are down you do what you have to do at the time. I won't be there to make the judgment call.

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Well they wont be down for £8.60 thats for sure.


The cost of the fare is irrelevant and the individual you confront will probably be thinking the same way if his intention is to beat you to a pulp.


That will be your choice and yours alone.


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Your right there Skull but I wont put it on an open forum


You put all the other sh** you spout on an open forum why not that?



I've seen "kids" as you put it kick people unconscious. I would rather it was them and not me.


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Yes so have I, and same here


Ah reality it does exist in your world then?


If trueblue2 ever has to defend herself I hope she has the opportunity to do exactly that.


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So do I, but it's not that straightforward is it, also it depends what you are defending yourself against.


Yes this is true but for a woman defending herself against a man I would say use extreme prejudice to disable her attacker. The fact is she might not get a second chance. There are countless women out there who hesitated and lived to regret it and some who didn’t do even that, lived.


Violence should always be a last resort but in extreme circumstances it is sometimes inevitable.

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Is £8.60 reason enough then?


Reason enough if £8.60 becomes a fight for your life.

Do us all a favor Stu and save us the all seeing all understanding social working bullshit.

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It will be a pleasure.



If you ever find yourself on the ground with the boots coming in you can rest assured the crap you spout will be the farthest thing from your mind.


Yes, I suppose that would apply to most people.



The trouble is Stu if you are on the ground with the boots coming in it’s usually because you gave away the only chance to save your as*. Your attacker might get it wrong on a number of occasions but rest assured every time he tries he gets better at it. You on the other hand might only get one chance.

I would rather make sure all the mistakes are his and not mine.

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I suppose thats a new spin on the old saying that the Pen is mightier than the sword 8-[


it is in confined spaces, but be careful, when using it to write a letter of complaint to the thugs parents, be sure to duck as he's swinging his weapon.


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