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PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2006 6:30 pm 
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The Comedy of Errors/Much Ado About Nothing/All's Well That Ends Well :lol:

Freeze lifted on cab fare hike
ALAN RODEN
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A freeze on taxi fare rises in the city will be lifted next week after Scotland's traffic commissioner threw out a sole objection.

The proposed increase of around seven per cent, which was due to start on May 1, was put on hold following a complaint from a cabbie.

The freeze has created chaos for 1200 taxi drivers in the Capital who already had their meters changed to the new prices, after being given the go-ahead by the council.

But the drivers were then warned that they would have to calculate a seven per cent discount for passengers carried in their cabs, or risk prosecution, until the problem was sorted out.

Yesterday, the traffic commissioner wrote to the cabbie who protested, Michael Gordon from Cramond Terrace, and rejected his complaints.

The taxi driver believed the fare rise was not high enough - and argued that the increase was not actually seven per cent.

The amount on the meter before people get into the cab has jumped from £1.45 to £1.50 - a 3.5 per cent increase.

But the time/mileage rate has risen from 23p to 25p - an 8.7 per cent hike.

The decision to find in favour of the council means that cabbies can start charging the full fare as soon as a one-week statutory period is over next Thursday.

The remaining drivers who have not had their meters changed will now also be able to increase their fares.

Edinburgh council leader Donald Anderson said: "We were always convinced that the traffic commissioner would find in our favour - and we have been proved right.

"It was just a shame that one individual owner has been able to cause this problem for the city, and I think that is something we need to look at."

Last week, traffic commissioner Joan Aitken criticised the city council for mishandling the situation.

She said the local authority had failed to advertise its plans properly, and said she had never come across such circumstances before.

But Mr Gordon today defended his decision to object, and insisted the rise was not equivalent to seven per cent.

"I am disappointed that the traffic commissioner chose not to take this case to a full hearing," he said.

"I'm very upset that she didn't take my point about the extra £1 we now have to pay to pick up fares at Edinburgh Airport.

"The council are responsible for Edinburgh's taxi trade and they have been destroying it for several years now. This was the straw that broke the camel's back."

The fiasco has angered cabbies, who have already called for an inquiry into the council's handling of the situation.

While some taxi drivers have been returning seven per cent of the fare to passengers, others have refused to do so.

They claim not to have received a letter ordering them to refund the increase, and have advised people to write to the council's licensing officials to complain instead.

Since the fare rise was put on hold, aggrieved customers have been able to report taxi and private-hire drivers to police for refusing to take off the amount.

However, a police spokeswoman said no complaints had been received, and no drivers had faced any charges.aroden@edinburghnews.com

This article: http://edinburghnews.scotsman.com/index ... =746182006

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Getting this sorted out so quickly and without a proper hearing was certainly politically expedient, so it'll be interesting to read the commissioner's reasoning.

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PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2006 7:22 pm 
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TDO wrote:

The taxi driver believed the fare rise was not high enough - and argued that the increase was not actually seven per cent.

The amount on the meter before people get into the cab has jumped from £1.45 to £1.50 - a 3.5 per cent increase.

But the time/mileage rate has risen from 23p to 25p - an 8.7 per cent hike.



I don't know what game is being played out here but the person who complained about the increase is exactly right. It is not 7% on Tariff one, In fact, what is not being explained is the fact that there is also an increase in yardage of 4% from 250 - 260 metres.

Tariff one as I have already explained in another thread does not reach 7% and the further you travel the rate decreases. You can only compare the increase in percentage terms up the point where the yardage changes. After that you have to take into consideration the 4% increase in yardage.

Day drivers in Edinburgh have been sold down the river and when they respond to this article I hope one of them can explain the factual breakdown of this increase.

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On the old tariff one rate of 23p per 250 metres you were getting 10.86 metres to 1P.

On the new tariff one rate of 25p per 260 metres you are getting 10.4 meteres to 1P.

Thats amounts to decrease and not an increase. I hope someone brings this to the attention of the press.

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JD wrote:
On the old tariff one rate of 23p per 250 metres you were getting 10.86 metres to 1P.

On the new tariff one rate of 25p per 260 metres you are getting 10.4 meteres to 1P.

Thats amounts to decrease and not an increase. I hope someone brings this to the attention of the press.

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What I meant to say is that it amounts to a decrease in terms of the extra 2p yardage increase because it works out at an increase of only 04% when you add the exrtra ten metres to the old yardage of 250 and not just over 8% as is suggested by the council.

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TDO wrote:
Getting this sorted out so quickly and without a proper hearing was certainly politically expedient, so it'll be interesting to read the commissioner's reasoning.


Actually, the Dundee decision seems to say that the person lodging the appeal must be 'representative of a substantial proportion' of taxi operators, thus since the Edinburgh appellant seemed to be acting on his own (as mentioned in the article) then he would have had no locus.

Which was quite convenient really. :shock:

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http://manage.edinburgh.gov.uk/Licensin ... 202006.pdf


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chipper wrote:
http://manage.edinburgh.gov.uk/Licensing/downloads/TAXI%20FARE%20REVIEW%20-%20Guidance%2018th%20May%202006.pdf


Well at least they have at last read up on taxi licensing law. :?

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Sussex wrote:

Well at least they have at last read up on taxi licensing law. :?


pitty they did not do that in the first place but then again we are talking about CEC :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink:


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