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PostPosted: Sun Jun 04, 2006 10:23 am 
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By the way, you would need to be more specific about the ages if you want the question answered :wink:


The fare chart is a little ambiguous don't you think? Then again most fare charts are. Perhaps someone in Edinburgh can tell us what Extras are charged for the number of persons I quoted?

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Don't how true it is but the extra charges are supposed to cover added fuel cost due to the extra weight you are carrying.:wink:


Other than that I've no idea :roll:

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What a miserable lot you are up there , fancy taking the kids pocket money. :sad: :sad:
The easiest way to charge is go by the seat belt age law if they are under 14 no charge, and over charge, all you have to ask them is there age, just say for the seat belt law how old are you???? and you will get an honest answer 9 times out of ten as you responsible for anyone under that age, (and before the cavalry start to charge I know that the driver is responsible for all passengers)
Then again it would be a lot simpler to have a tariff sheet everyone could interpret A to B one fare without extras for this that and the other, remember you would not get as many fares if that shopping bag or suitcase was not heavy
We just charge one fare no extras whether its one passenger or four even if they have brought the kitchen sink with them
and fare and a half for 5 to 6 Does not apply to kids under 14 IE a family of 5 or 6 so the moral of this story is keep the charges sensible and get more work


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JD wrote:
The fare chart is a little ambiguous don't you think?


Well to the extent that I thought your query was a trick question, then yes. :D

But if no one proffers an answer before I make my £200 tonight (:roll:) then I'll have a go.

I don't mind tripping myself up :oops:

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Yes, thank you, I did realise what the rule meant.

What I did say was that the wording of the rule seemed a bit odd in that context, I wasn't querying its meaning.


Whats the extra charge if you have two adults and one child aged 12, or three children all under 12, or 4 children all under 12? two adults and 3 children aged 12? and finally 5 children all aged 12?

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2 adults + 1x12yr =20p extra
zero extra for 3 children under 12
zero extra for 4 children under 12
2 adults + 3 aged12=60p
5 x 12 year olds = 60p

Thats how I see it but not necessarly what I would charge :wink: , anyone ever had the extras questioned..ever?


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Yes, thank you, I did realise what the rule meant.

What I did say was that the wording of the rule seemed a bit odd in that context, I wasn't querying its meaning.


Whats the extra charge if you have two adults and one child aged 12, or three children all under 12, or 4 children all under 12? two adults and 3 children aged 12? and finally 5 children all aged 12?

Regards

JD


2 adults + 1x12yr =20p extra

zero extra for 3 children under 12
zero extra for 4 children under 12
2 adults + 3 aged12=60p
5 x 12 year olds = 60p

Thats how I see it but not necessarly what I would charge :wink: , anyone ever had the extras questioned..ever?


Well I must admit that's interesting.

If other driver's in Edinburgh held a different view to that of your own, in respect of the extra charges, would you then be of the opinion that the councils explanation on the tariff sheet was ambiguous?

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Mr Peeper from FBs seems to know what's what. :shock:

But methinks he is still trying to come to terms with freedom of choice. :wink:

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JD wrote:
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JD wrote:
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Yes, thank you, I did realise what the rule meant.

What I did say was that the wording of the rule seemed a bit odd in that context, I wasn't querying its meaning.


Whats the extra charge if you have two adults and one child aged 12, or three children all under 12, or 4 children all under 12? two adults and 3 children aged 12? and finally 5 children all aged 12?

Regards

JD


2 adults + 1x12yr =20p extra

zero extra for 3 children under 12
zero extra for 4 children under 12
2 adults + 3 aged12=60p
5 x 12 year olds = 60p

Thats how I see it but not necessarly what I would charge :wink: , anyone ever had the extras questioned..ever?


Well I must admit that's interesting.

If other driver's in Edinburgh held a different view to that of your own, in respect of the extra charges, would you then be of the opinion that the councils explanation on the tariff sheet was ambiguous?

Regards

JD


I would think so, are there other drivers who have a differant view on this?


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jackcab wrote:
2 adults + 1x12yr =20p extra
zero extra for 3 children under 12
zero extra for 4 children under 12
2 adults + 3 aged12=60p
5 x 12 year olds = 60p

Thats how I see it but not necessarly what I would charge :wink: , anyone ever had the extras questioned..ever?


I agree with Mr Jackcab except for the middle one - 20p extras?

And I'm assuming none of the kids are under five - no point in complicating things :D

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JD wrote:
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Yes, thank you, I did realise what the rule meant.

What I did say was that the wording of the rule seemed a bit odd in that context, I wasn't querying its meaning.


Whats the extra charge if you have two adults and one child aged 12, or three children all under 12, or 4 children all under 12? two adults and 3 children aged 12? and finally 5 children all aged 12?

Regards

JD

Can I join in here?????
2 adults and 1 child aged 12 =20p extras
3 kids all under 12 but over 5 = no extras
4 children under 12 but over 5 = 20p extras
2 adults and 3 kids agead 12 = 60p extras
5 children aged 12 = 60p extras.
and a couple of my own...
1 adult and 4 kids under 12 but over 5 = 40p extras
5 kids under 12 but over 5 = 40p extras
these are the maximum extras per the tariff sheet.


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Is it all really worth it?

I mean how many ruck must you have over the age of the children, and if you don't bother, then why bother? :?

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I take it all back :lol: It does seem a bit ambigious now that I have read it for the first time in 30 years :lol:

I prefer the old way and decide extras on level of nuisance i.e. if they are eating sweets etc :lol: :lol:

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I take it all back :lol: It does seem a bit ambigious now that I have read it for the first time in 30 years :lol:

I prefer the old way and decide extras on level of nuisance i.e. if they are eating sweets etc :lol: :lol:

Jack.



Yes I had feeling there may be a growing consensus that the tariff sheet should have given a little more clarity in respect of Children under 12?

In my opinion Dusty was right to question the ambiguity of the tariff sheet and I think Mr Gladstone was wrong for being pedantic when he castigated dusty about the Extras.

In respect of Extras, you held a different view to that of Mr Gladstone which to me proves the point that the fare chart could most definitely be seen as ambiguous to many and perhaps could be interpreted in at least two ways?

I think the case against the Edinburgh fare chart has been proven and hereby found guilty of ambiguity. It is now up to the City of Edinburgh Council to rectify the matter.

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JD wrote:
[In my opinion Dusty was right to question the ambiguity of the tariff sheet and I think Mr Gladstone was wrong for being pedantic when he castigated dusty about the Extras.



Well I wasn't so much questioning its clarity than its provenance, although I think everyone seems to think it was the former :)

It could perhaps be made clearer, but I think the problem is perhaps complexity rather than lack of clarity - your conundrums are not the kind of thing I would like to work out while actually on the job, particulary if 100% accuracy was required. #-o

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