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They have a right to input in the same way as anyone else, but their views are not finite.

If the local trade can't ensure that a coherent case, be put before councillors, then perhaps the local trade have it wrong.

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IDFIMH

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IDFIMH

thats precisely what I was getting at in my earlier postings.
some of us have found it impossible to build up a viable buisness because of plate restrictions, we for instance were told by licensing officials to top up with private hire

we told him we could not mix the fleet, we were about to tell a judge but the council were persuaded to save us both the trouble and themselves the cost, believe me they did not have a leg to stand on, we had prooved significant unmet demand, and latent demand, and they knew it.

DON'T READ IT THEN you pillock.

For gods sake is the CTN forced into your hands, will the reports published within its pages have a effect on you or your associates. If you believe your own words as written within this and all the other forums you have scare-mongered on you would want everyone to think that the T&G are in-effective and unable to change policy.

Nationally campaining on certain principles is what they should be doing, but having the flexibility to allow local branch members their right to have representation within their requests isn't a massive sign of weakness its a massive sign of strength, you don't like it so you attempt to criticise such actions with scare-mongering tactics to deflect the truth.

The T&G are a strong union, the Cab Section are in a position to effect positive change for the whole hire and reward industry, I suspect you don't want change that will benefit the majority you only want change that will benefit YOU.

What happened to everything YOU threatened the OFT report would suggest, they provided you with very little in the way of your ideals. Yet YOU read into the report things whaich are'nt there in order to promote your scare-mongering, self-serving ideals.

I have wrote and read many words about de-limitation but I'll tell you something for nothing, I have just completed my year end accounts for 2003 and I am nearly £5,000 down on 2003 and I'm working, on average, an extra 12 hours per week. Now work it out Sussex, thats less than £20 per shift down yet it has such a dramatic effect in the year end totals and my profits.

Not that I expect you to show any concern for anyone else though, as long as you get what you want, who gives a flying [expletive deleted] about tomorrow, just as long as your bag has more money in it.

Self-centred, arrogant, scare-mongering liar.

B. gone

More T&G democracy, if you don't like it tough, we are the T&G, we are never wrong !!!!!!

It's like saying if someone posts a message on TDO that you disagree with, then you mustn't say anything about it, cos you didn't have to read ir. Derrrrrrrrr !!!!!

Of course it has an effect, when a paper gives misguided reports, then some thickos believe it to be true.

But then that's the whole idea isn't it Mr Guest?

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IDFIMH

In other words telling others what they should do for the good of the trade, but doing something entirely different themselves.

Call that a sign of strength, I don't think so.

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IDFIMH

The whole T&G may have it good sections, but the Cab section is well and truly the 'Black Sheep', and one day the real leadership will find out.

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IDFIMH

I don't threaten anything !!

The OFT report said get rid of number restriction, have max fares and have good national standards.

I might not have got everything I wanted in the report, but they will do very nice for starters.

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IDFIMH

And all this loss is down to de-limitation?

I don't remember you last year saying that you did well, with all that extra money, and I believe you were de-limited then, wasn't you?

But if you can't make any money of the trade, then you best be off, and leave the trade to those that can.

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IDFIMH

No I'm not a member of your union.

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IDFIMH

I'm not quite sure what you mean by the first paragaph Mick, when was I advocating that?

As for your second para, I assume you are referring to when I said something about T&G permit holders - what I mean't was members of the T&G who hold permits at the station, not that the T&G issue the permits, but either way I don't see that it makes a jot of difference.

As for the second part of the second para, you've lost me entirely! It's me that's advocating non-restrictive/flexible practices re plates, isn't it, and the T&G that's advocating restrictive practices. Then they want non-restrictive/flexible practices re rail stations, but restrictive practices when it suits them.

Am I right or am I wrong?

Dusty

Police and traffic wardens can have an input, I wouldn't doubt that, but you seemed to be implying that the should effectively be able to decide the number of taxis (and thus plate premiums and inflated rentals). Councillors shouldn't even be deciding this, never mind police and traffic wardens.

If they have concerns they should of course be able to put them to the council, and if the council don't act then it's obviously incompetent. But if there is a problem with rank space then the last thing they should be doing is restricting taxi numbers. There are plenty of other things that they could be doing, such as more rank space, tightening up on the bangers that they allow to be plated as taxis, keeping the lid on fare rises, tightening up on conditiosn for badges - didn't you once say that the council/job centre were doing something silly as regards issuing more badges?

I object to parking tickets being issued as well, but what about the thousands paid yearly by jockies to plateholders, which you and the T&G seem to condone?

I think that's like what the T&G call extortion by greedy rail companies, or paying to rank, or suchlike, but of course only when it suits the T&G.

What do you mean by 'forcing people to agree with your opinions'?

What lies have I been telling?

I'm either expressing an opinion like everyone else or telling the facts - if you can point to specific lies then I'll easily put these right.

Dusty

Crappy, Mick, that good?

I still can't see the difference between Taxibank and the T&G at Brighton station - it's just self interest in both cases, but at least Taxibank are consistent, and dont' get all holier than thou when it suits them.

Do as the T&G says, not as they do!

Dusty

So the T&G should have insisted that their membership took action they didn't agree with, are you suggesting that ALL of the Brighton T&G members are permit holders, is there not a chance that ONLY the majority are and the minority of members, non-permit holders voted for union policy. Should the Union have turned their back on the majority of the members of that branch on a single issue such as this, I think they would have been very foolhardy if they had.

You see, membrship of a Union should afford you an assurance of your rights, it should NEVER force people to do something they don't agree with and therefore removing their basic democratic right of a vote. If they had you would have been screaming "Brighton Branch let down their membership to follow National Policy" possibly adding "they lied to their membership when they told them they were representing the majority view".

Pick on the T&G if you like Dusty mate, I really don't care whether you agree or disagree, I would like to see you or Sussex write a letter to the CTN pointing out all of your objections and allegations and we can all see if they will publish it, not that I think they would as you are not a union member unlike on here where no membership is required to contribute and that boys is the differance, like it or not.

B. Lucky