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Not in Exeter though :shock:

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Regarding the bus lanes up here in glasgow ph cars use them all the time. Up here it seems the normal route we all use, it makes a big difference in journey time.


same as in renfrewshire, have noticed that both have signs to that effect though, Glasgow right turn from oswald street into argyle street and central station states Bus, Taxi LPHC (licensed private hire car) and bicycle, paisley has similar (PHV private hire vehicle) what we need though is a bus lane in union street for the night time movement of "public transport" either that or stop allowing noraml traffic down ther on fri/sat nights


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Not in Exeter though :shock:

Nor in Sussex. :D

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There's no excuse for private cars to be confused, all Taxi and Ph have plates on the rear and you have to pass an eye test when they take their driving test.
We have Bus Taxi Cycle and Licenced Ph on the bus lane sign's.
Pity it's not enforced though, lots just use them as they please!


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TDO wrote:
Not in Exeter though :shock:


As I pointed out. Sticker on bumper, authorised user. No sticker, and you get a fine. Fine by me. 'course, you could do away with bus lanes altogether, and see the traffic flow, could you not?

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You may have missed the point I was making Jimbo?

Which was that while you were getting a bit pedantic about terminology you yourself are liberally using the term 'bus lane' when other vehicle are allowed to use them :?

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You may have missed the point I was making Jimbo?

Which was that while you were getting a bit pedantic about terminology you yourself are liberally using the term 'bus lane' when other vehicle are allowed to use them :?


Oh dear.

When some bright spark, in the dept of transport dreamed up the idea of bus lanes, I am sure they were meant to be only for buses. So that is why they were called bus lanes. Now of course they are used by cyclists, emergency vehicles, taxi's, etc. "Bus Lane" is as generic as "Hoover" or "Dyson" I could not care less what they are called, I can't use them here, and I don't use them elsewhere, because I am not certain that I can. But if you want to risk it for a biscuit, go ahead, it's your license.

Me, pedantic?

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It is up to each individual council what they allow in a bus lane, it is also up to each individual council how they manage their local roads and what conditions they attache to a stretch of highway. If anyone has any problem with road markings you can always ask the highways department what restrictions have been applied for in respect of a certain stretch of road. I.E no U-Turns or no right turns or whatever?

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Oh dear.

When some bright spark, in the dept of transport dreamed up the idea of bus lanes, I am sure they were meant to be only for buses. So that is why they were called bus lanes. Now of course they are used by cyclists, emergency vehicles, taxi's, etc. "Bus Lane" is as generic as "Hoover" or "Dyson" I could not care less what they are called, I can't use them here, and I don't use them elsewhere, because I am not certain that I can. But if you want to risk it for a biscuit, go ahead, it's your license.

Me, pedantic?


I would say the term taxi is used as generically as the terms you mention, which is the essence of my point - if you're not that worried about the accuracy of the terminology here, why bother about it as regards taxi?

By the way, I wouldn't say that 'Dyson' is used generically.

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Oh dear.

When some bright spark, in the dept of transport dreamed up the idea of bus lanes, I am sure they were meant to be only for buses. So that is why they were called bus lanes. Now of course they are used by cyclists, emergency vehicles, taxi's, etc. "Bus Lane" is as generic as "Hoover" or "Dyson" I could not care less what they are called, I can't use them here, and I don't use them elsewhere, because I am not certain that I can. But if you want to risk it for a biscuit, go ahead, it's your license.

Me, pedantic?


I would say the term taxi is used as generically as the terms you mention, which is the essence of my point - if you're not that worried about the accuracy of the terminology here, why bother about it as regards taxi?

By the way, I wouldn't say that 'Dyson' is used generically.


Yes, I am fully aware that was what you were alluding to.

I do not know if you drive hack or ph, but for the sake of an argument, I will assume you are ph. If your LA made it a condition of license that all taxi's should be WAV, to the PCO standard, I rather get the feeling, that to avoid any confusion, you would be at pains to point out to the LA, that you do not drive a taxi, but a PH?

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Never driven a PH, and I think the only one I've ever been in is Sussex's. :lol:

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I do not know if you drive hack or ph, but for the sake of an argument, I will assume you are ph. If your LA made it a condition of license that all taxi's should be WAV, to the PCO standard, I rather get the feeling, that to avoid any confusion, you would be at pains to point out to the LA, that you do not drive a taxi, but a PH?


As I alluded, it all depends on the context, and when it comes to licensing legislation and/or the PHV/taxi distinction then clearly the word taxi usually takes on narrower definition. But when the word taxi is used on bus lane signs then I think it often means PH and HCs can use bus/HC/PHV/bicycle lanes. :lol:

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jimbo wrote:
I do not know if you drive hack or ph, but for the sake of an argument, I will assume you are ph. If your LA made it a condition of license that all taxi's should be WAV, to the PCO standard, I rather get the feeling, that to avoid any confusion, you would be at pains to point out to the LA, that you do not drive a taxi, but a PH?


As I alluded, it all depends on the context, and when it comes to licensing legislation and/or the PHV/taxi distinction then clearly the word taxi usually takes on narrower definition. But when the word taxi is used on bus lane signs then I think it often means PH and HCs can use bus/HC/PHV/bicycle lanes. :lol:


A very wide lane will be needed to paint all that in....

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Can a Licenced Taxi (not PH) use marked "taxi" Bus Lanes not in their town........ie London in Brighton and vice versa :?:


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I think it depends on the local rules, but one thing's for sure, it won't actually say so on any sign :-s

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