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Here I'm not kidding these Tuk-tuks are a serious consideration. The tourists will eat them up and what about the pis* heads jumping in from pup to pup. Once the festival is on the go I am sure they will be a great success. The Hacks don't want the work anyway and what's to stop me and a few of my comrade's putting on Tuk-tuks I can't see a problem myself? It's got to be worth it.

Think about the money you would save I mean who wants to pay 40K+ for a plate and 30K for a cab or £300 for a rental. Give me a Tuk-tuk any day:lol:

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BTW not heard from Jackass I wonder if it has anything to do with announcing his takings to the IR? I'm sure old moneybags can afford it.

Bet you he's watching though

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Sull wrote




This is bollix Garry you pick one or two cases and this justifies your whole argument,



What's that all about ? You ask the question and I answered it.
Why don't you answer my question ?

PH
1506 shifts
1861 drivers
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1.23 drivers per shift

According to your theory, the ph with no restrictions should be increasing to accomodate the number of drivers. But according to the figures they are decreasing, explain that Gary.

Maybe there's lots of part-timers who have no interest in vehicle ownership, thus the ratio isn't really relevant to the argument. That's certainly been the historical scenario in my manor, and I suspect it's because taxis badges are easy to obtain - probably much like PH badges in Edinburgh.

As for holiday cover, even if there's a sufeit of drivers in general I don't think this will mean that drivers are easy to come by for holiday cover, because I doubt if there are a huge number of drivers languishing at home waiting for some owner to go on his holidays.

There may be a surfeit of drivers at certain times (eg weekends), but instead of waiting for a weekend drive for a couple of weeks a year the drivers may have taken other less popular shifts.

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I'm not so sure - if there was a mass exodus of drivers and suddenly the remaining drivers were earning £100 a week more I suspect that rentals would increase to negate that because if the drivers were working for their original earnings why wouldn't they continue to work for that?

In theory I think the thing to remember is that drivers will earn the same regardless of what happens, thus the other variables change to compensate for this.

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Ross Wrote:




This is all about you and where you see yourself in the food chain. This is Ross the model driver, a driver every owner should want to own. Well I am happy for you Ross it must be very comforting not having to worry about anything knowing you are well looked after by your owner.

Ever considered the fact that some of us don't want to be owned by another taxi driver? Nor do wee see ourselves as a commodity to be traded between plate holders.





The Ph does increase to accommodate the number of drivers. Some choose to drive others own depending on the market and their personal circumstances. A down turn in Ph vehicles could be some going back to driving or leaving the trade for pastures new. A slight down turn means absolutely nothing over a 3 - 5 year period. The fact is the Ph has doubled over the same period with better vehicles and modern data dispatch systems. Their vehlces also double as their private car another added bonus.

They must be taking someones work Ross do you want to take a guess as to whose work that might be?


Now you tell me where does a £300 rental come from or a 40K+ plate premium and why an increase in plates would make any difference? It’s only qualified drivers driving their own taxis after all it’s not like they are not driving and earning a living anyway?

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I would agree but I think you have to consider what the variables are and who controls them for the most part? It's certainly not the driver's who have any say in a restricted market.

Drivers are a greater asset if they can be replaced at short notice and by someone willing to pay more to secure their employment however casual that agreement might be. On the other hand a shortage of drivers makes them an asset of a different type with owners competing for their services forcing down rentals. Drivers are then selling their services at a competitive rate and not being dictated their replacement value.

A scarcity of drives then inflates plate premiums with drivers wishing to own rather than face the expensive and precarious nature of their employment. Thus forcing them to use redundancy payments or equity in property to buy plates exacerbating the situation even further.

The whole thing is just a con.

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skull wrote





What's it to be Garry ?
If we are not allowed to use driver's leaving the trade into account, niether can you.



I don't know much about how much it cost's to run a taxi on a weekly basis. but if I owned one I would expect the drivers rental to pay at least the radio dues and taxi finance payment. So Garry how much would you charge for a nightshift rental ?
40k plate, I will agree that this is way to high, nae disgraceful.

If every taxi driver got a plate next week, that would be 3583 taxis on the road on a Fri/Sat night. Now if we are to believe,( according to you) that there is not enough work on these nights for 1260 taxis, nobody would earn a living.



But Garry, as you take great delight in telling us every week.
YOUR NOT ONE OF US



There you go again, if you want a debate Garry stick to the subject.

Ross wrote:



As long as there are more drivers entering the trade I can’t see the relevance of drivers leaving the trade especially when you have a fixed number of vehicles. Unlike the Ph which have doubled in both vehicles and drivers.




I never said anything about “how much it cost’s to run a taxi” that was not my question. And as for what you “would expect the driver’s rental to pay” it’s irrelevant. The driver would have the choice to own or drive depending on what suited his personal circumstances. If I owned my taxi I would drive it myself subject to the availability of drivers wanting to drive and not own. Have I missed something here? A 40K plate or a £300 rental would not exist.




No it wouldn’t, it would be the same drivers working the same shifts driving their own taxi and not someone else’s taxi. A lot of owners who are not prepared to work night shifts just like they are now would have their single shifted taxi sitting at the door. Taxis don’t drive themselves Ross. You would have your taxi sitting at the door depending on whether or not you worked night or day also.




No there is not enough work for 1260 taxis 7-800 Ph and god only knows how many taxis and Ph from outside the City. Soon there will be Tuk-tuks as well. The Hacks are losing their market share like I said before and the driver cannot continue paying higher rentals to compensate for a lack of work and a scarcity of shifts.



I will die a happy man




You are the subject Ross and people like you.

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Ross this was my respons to TDO's post just in case you missed it


Drivers are a greater asset if they can be replaced at short notice and by someone willing to pay more to secure their employment however casual that agreement might be. On the other hand a shortage of drivers makes them an asset of a different type with owners competing for their services forcing down rentals. Drivers are then selling their services at a competitive rate and not being dictated their replacement value.

A scarcity of drives then inflates plate premiums with drivers wishing to own rather than face the expensive and precarious nature of their employment. Thus forcing them to use redundancy payments or equity in property to buy plates exacerbating the situation even further.

The whole thing is just a con.

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Jim Taylor has just been on Talk 107 giving the truth behind the 45k plate values, hiked rentals and tariffs. I think a few will be left smarting after that broadside. Strange no one tried to counter his argument, I wonder why?:shock:

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Long standing Cabby Jack Sargent V64 has just sold-out because the Edinburgh Taxi Trade is too profitable. The word is he felt compelled to pass on the opportunity to someone else. It just gets better and better

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Just another little snippet, Edinburgh Licence Plates are now selling for £50,000. I don't know what Mr. Sargent got for his but the word is one was recently traded for £50,000, now that's desperation.

These guy's are nuts

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So how true is it guys I heard on the grapevine CRT was in serious financial trouble with radio sets bailing out for pastures new. I take it the sticky advert on coins was Denny Mackenzie’s innovative way to drum-up work. Years and years of mismanagement but sticky pound coins will save the day, I don’t think so lads it’s too little too late. CRT’s situation is terminal and no amount of little sticky adverts will change it. Edinburgh is no longer big enough for three radio companies fighting over the same bowl of cherries and one is going down.

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Isn’t it strange how cabbies on fasties are complaining about the loss of work in both CRT and City Cabs?

It seems CRT’s is reaching critical with City Cabs following hotly in pursuit but low and behold plate values are going up just like driver’s rentals. How could that be? I remember when Jackcab (before he decided to give ALL his money to the taxman) claimed he was making a fortune. The bold Ross on the other hand thinks everything in the Taxi World is rosy.

Is the Skull right after all I ask myself?

Could this be the demise of the Edinburgh taxi trade as we know it?

Is this the end of hiked rentals and plate values?

Not fecking likely these muppets will go on paying more and more for less and less until the ars* fall out the game completely.

Pay £300 for a rental or buy a plate for 50k? You lot should be locked up for your own safety.

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