Taxi Driver Online

Too late Sussex.

You've allowed the gestapo to dictate how law is now formed.

You've missed the boat because you were too short sighted to see the ramifications of the way the smoking ban was implemented.

And, if we'd adopted your attitude in 1939, we'd have just said that the invasion of Poland had nothing to do with us. What was Poland to us? Hitler had no bigger intent and we truly would be under the grip of nazism now.

All because we weren't prepared to fight for the freedoms enjoyed by others.

You horrible vile little man - equating the evil of Nazism with the "rights" of smokers.

You truly have lost the plot, and given your quite obviously deranged mental state, serious questions must be asked as to whether you are a fit and proper person to hold a taxi drivers license.

And having watched Channel 4 news tonight - I have nothing but contempt for the state of Israel

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TC, I think you've lost it.

You've allowed your clear disdain for me to overcome you. Gosh!

Er, it wasn't me who elicited the fact that Hitler was anti-smoking.

It wasn't me who didn't put the proposed ban on smoking in public places in my election manifesto.

It wasn't me who acted like a true fascist and curtailed debate.

And, if you truly think I'm a vile man, why don't you front me up and tell me to my face.

Of course, you won't you coward. You snivelling little sheep. You disgrace to humanity, who would prefer to be dictated to, to be put down, to be servile canon fodder.

As for contempt of Israel, I doubt you would even know the very basis of the issue.

Go read all of the books by Leon Uris. I cite Exodus, Mila 18, Armageddon through to QB VII.

Then come to me and debate the state of Israel.

Then I'll ask you to consider the plight of the Palestinians.

I'll ask you consider whether it is right that their homeland should have been taken from them without their say. I'll ask you to tell me that it is right for the Israelis to claim the moral highground after the Holocaust nearly destroyed the Jewish people, only for them to wreak terrorist havoc on a people who played no part in that historical aberration. I'll ask you, sixty years after the bombing of the King David Hotel by those who later rose to the highest echelons of Israeli political life, who the real terrorists are?

Go away insignificant little mind. You don't have the wit to comprehend even a basic argument. You are not worthy.

If you began learning now, and applied yourself 48 hours a day, you will never have the wit to engage meaningful debate.

TC, as I may have said before, you are witless. Why do you even bother, when there are more suitable activities to engage you? I humbly suggest sewing, and fasties.

All my love to you

Jim

PS I don't need the frenetic pressing of smiley keys to register my disgust for you as a human being - not a term which I truly believe applies to a miscreant like you in any case.

Whenever I get sh t on my shoe, I'll think of you.

JT

So you don't care about you fellow man. What interests him?

As long as it doesn't touch your wee world, you don't care. How sad.

I hate smoking too. The ban won't stop smoking. It hasn't elsewhere, it won't here.

And, as a non-smoker, we could have been protected by enforcing rules for wholly separate facilities, without making smokers social pariahs and sending them outside.

The norm in any pub and club could have been non-smoking, with smoking only permitted where separate facilities could be provided, and only then when the air quality was maintained to an acceptable standard.

(Incidentally the technology already exists, indeed is already being used, to achieve this.)

This isn't about protecting non-smokers, it's about a lot more than that.

Smoking kills?

So does an Israeli war plane inflicting death and destruction on a innocent lebanese community.

Your protest is where exactly?

My point on this matter gasbag was that you have allowed your pathological hatred of all thing Labour to cloud your views on everything, even a law which will save lives, it's not just the lives of those who suffered from passive smoking, but those who smoke themselves. It won't stop people smoking, but it will reduce the amount they smoke, so good news all round. Even those who manufacture deodorants and perfumes must be laughing, as there's no smoke to cover the smell of body odour

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Dear oh dear.

Reduce the amount that people smoke?

Hardly. They'll just do it at different times, in different places. methinks you don't understand anything about smoking.

But, then you are an expert aren't you?

Where's the evidence to show that cigarette sales are down anywhere a ban has been introduced?

As for passive smoking? Perhaps the greatest urban myth ever. Were it to be even remotely true, I'd like to know how we all managed to survive all thsese years living in the fug of smokers.

Of course, it's bollocks. It's clear that while there has been great strides in the understanding of cancers, there is still most of it to learn. While I tend to agree it may well be a factor, on the balance of reason, there is no clininical proof that passive smoking is the agent for the number of cancers attributed to it.

Oh, I know the Maureen Moores of this world have used some spurious "data" to whip up a moral panic about smoking. But the evidence is hardly conclusive, useful only because fools bought into the panic and exercise authoritarian control to achieve their own ends, irrespective of personal preference and choice. Quite a libertarian democracy we live in, isn't it?

Pathological hatred of Labour? No. New Labour? Wholeheartedly yes. Because they are deceitful and authoritarianly manipulative. And our nation is going down the pan with them in power. They are not to be trusted.

Illegal wars. Dead British soldiers as a result. Failure to conduct itself properly according to UN rules. Allied to George Bush, the criminal that he is, and who "fixed" his election with the help of his brother. And a US which, while it ignores the UN in its own curious self interest, still fails to make its proper payment for the upkeep of the UN.

Removal of liberties. Summary justice. Bad law making. Removal of the right to remain silent.

Personal gratification and promotion of self interest. Lordships for sale. Purchase of mansions and clear links with business interests. Prescott and Casino owners for example. Where did a scroat like Prescott, allegedly the one representing the workers interests in our corrupt government, get his cash? The guy was a seaman for God's sake. Now two shags Prescott is more into semen.

And a reprehensible Tony Bliar who is at this very moment carving out his post PM career brown nosing with the Americans who are going to reward him handsomely for his unfettered support as Bush's poodle. Free holiday Bliar. Freeloading Bliar. Who is leaving us in a [edited by admin] of mess.

Killing innocent individuals on railways, and its obvious cover up. Dr Kelly's alleged suicide. Really? With a caring wife and lovely family in his life? You believe he committed suicide? Police control, heading to a police state. ID cards, now stretching to 18 billion pounds and now forecast to go the same way as the Australian project and be binned.

Exorbitant and rising house prices, coupled with no check on credit and personal debt (£1 trillion plus), which serves no purpose than filling the coffers of the money men and which sucks the disposable income out of the pockets of those who use taxis.

A rail system which is a disgrace, and which we can't afford to fix, yet we can squander £1 billion on a trams system for Edinburgh which will only cover 10-15% of existing routes. Nice wee brown envelopes for those making the decisions I suspect.

Your deluded TC

Jasbar, it's all rubbish, you know it, I know it and the vast majority of the population know it, unable to even contemplate some form of compromise to accommodate a huge amount of the population just shows how strange the thought process has become amongst the serried ranks of our totalitarian minded Politicians,couple that with a gullible public who love a bit of scapegoating and the circle has been squared, anything is possible now!

And for Torn Casualty, if it was about saving lives they would just have banned tobacco altogether, but of course theres the small matter of nine billion a year tax yield, hypocrites.

Designated smoking areas could have been constructed inside a lot of these places, I refuse to accept that in the 21st century it is not possible to construct a hermetically sealed area within some of these premises with proper air extraction/cleaning, that could have avioded the situation we have now where there are sometimes more people outside the premises than there are inside it.

I would suggest that the people outside these premises act as the best advert for smoking there has ever been, not just that but they appear to be enjoying themselves as well, makes it look better than it actually is, oh well nanny knows best.

But we will have to keep dancing this grim fandango every time our leaders decide some other piece of nonsense for us, well some people will, most will welcome the removal of their freedom of choice.

If tony blair is that worried about my health as a smoker and non smokers health, he should ban cigarettes completely.

I wished he would ban drinking on a fri/sat night, it would make my job easier

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Well I'm not so sure about that, only time will tell.

But from my experience fewer and fewer people are smoking, and where, say, ten years ago many people asked if they could smoke in the car, less than one a month ask now.

In my opinion smokers are the among the most selfish people I come into contact with, so they should keep their killing habit to themselves.

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Well, there had to be a topic somewhere on here that I just had to agree with Sussex on, and here it is!

So let's bang in a few facts.

Smoking Kills.

50% of smokers will die from a smoking related disease.

Only 26% of the adult population of the UK smoke. (31% in Scotland)

The Royal Scam.
Illegal drugs, such as Heroin, and Cocaine, at least have a very visible and physiological effect, not that I have, or ever would, try them. The biggest scam in the history of civilisation is TOBACCO. Why? because, unlike other recreational drugs, such as the above, and which should also include fairly, alcohol, Tobacco in itself does not offer an artificial high. With a content that some claim the tobacco industry secretly boost of nicotine, that is more addictive than heroin. All that a cigarette does in effect, is satisfy the craving for nicotine, until the next ciggie. No high, no buzz. So why do smokers smoke? Because they HAVE to, not because they want to. The most addictive drug in the world is legal, and smokers pay 95% tax on thier fix. Give up NOW. Hey! You! Mr 40 A Day! You know how you feel, after your first fag of the day, or after a meal, or after sex, if you can remember, you could feel as good as I do all the time, because I don't suffer the craving that you do, that only another ciggie will cure. Go on , you all threaten to bring the goverment to it's knees by giving up the evil weed , so go on, DO IT!!!!!.... But you can't, can you?

Ever known anyone over 20 have their first cigarette?

Tobacco, the most expensive method of suicide.

Why is it, (in England, anyway,) that smoking taxi drivers have "No Smoking" signs in their Cabs?

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Of course thats if you still had one, a job that is, because as you will no doubt be aware pollutions one of the biggest killers and cause of illness in our Cities, or say they say?

26% is a hell of a lot of people, at least 10 million and as sussex says he only gets one a month asking if they can smoke, see, nobody wants to inflict their habit on everyone else, so what is wrong in with compromise where everyone can be catered for in a civilised manner?

Not any more in London.

Our eco-friendly £2000 Euro 3 upgrade systems will see to all that pollution.

What was that?

What about the few Million Buses, Trucks, Vans and Cars that won't have the systems fitted?

Ken would have thought about that.

Won't he?

Well if fewer and fewer are smoking why ban it if it's dying out on it's own, also if smokers are the most selfish people you know, the one a month who asks you if you can smoke should not bother asking

This coming from the person who wished to deny our pensioners a free run on the bus, selfish people?

Well Jimbo 100% of people die, but as usual the general message about this gets lost in peoples personal dislike of smoking, it was never about the smoking, it was about the method used to apply a blanket ban.

Death rates for men aged 16-34 are virtually the same as in 1971.

Suicide rates for men aged 15-24 have more than doubled since 1971.

The incidence of prostate cancer has increased by over 135 per cent since 1971.

The number of men with testicular cancer has more than doubled since 1971.

The number of men aged 25-64 dying from chronic liver disease has increased five times since 1970. (Alcohol misuse is the main cause of chronic liver disease.)

The proportion of men who are obese has more than tripled since 1980

Men in social class five (unskilled manual) still have a life expectancy at birth that is below average male life expectancy in the early 1970s.


STATISTICS BACKGROUND

Average male life expectancy at birth is now 75 years.


Men in social class 5 still have a life expectancy at birth that is below average male life expectancy in the early 1970s. The average life expectancy of a man in social class 5 (unskilled manual) is currently 68.2 years; average life expectancy for all men in 1972-76 was 69.2 years.


Men living in some disadvantaged communities continue to have a life expectancy similar to the national average male life expectancy for the late 1970s. The life expectancy at birth of all men in Manchester is currently 70.5 years; average life expectancy for all men in 1977-81 was 70.0 years.
Death rates for men aged 16-34 are virtually the same as in 1971. The death rate for men aged 16-24 and 25-34 was 100 per 100,000 population in 1971; in 1999, the death rates were 80 per 100,000 for men aged 16-24 and 100 for men aged 25-34.


Suicide rates for men aged 15-24 have more than doubled since 1971. There were 16 suicides per 100,000 population aged 15-24 in 1999 compared to 'only' seven per 100,000 in 1971. The majority of suicides now occur in young adult males and suicide is the most common cause of death in men aged under 35.


The incidence of prostate cancer has increased by over 135 per cent since 1971. 30 men per 100,000 were diagnosed with prostate cancer in 1971; by 1997, 71 men per 100,000 were diagnosed. 18,300 men are now diagnosed with prostate cancer each year and 8,500 die.


The number of men with testicular cancer more than doubled between 1971 and 1997. There are now over 1,440 new cases diagnosed each year, although 'only' 70 deaths.


The number of men aged 25-64 dying from chronic liver disease has increased five-fold in the period 1970-2000. Alcohol misuse is the biggest single cause of chronic liver disease. 27 per cent of men now drink more than the recommended limits. 36 per cent of those aged 16-24 drink excessively.


The proportion of men who are obese has more than tripled since 1980; the proportion of men who are overweight has increased by one-third. 45 per cent of men are now overweight and another 17 per cent are obese


http://www.menshealthforum.org.uk/userp ... tem_id=915


How come all these cancers are increasing whilst the rate of smoking is falling?

Until 6 days ago I was a smoker and I have a no smoking sign the reason is simple, I can manage to smoke a fag without burning holes in the seats, some of my drunk customers cant.

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