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The people who represent this Taxi trade of ours are frequent visitors to this site, so they know or they should know, what is happening to this fair country of ours. For quite some time I've advocated higher quality control standards for drivers in order to make entry harder for those who do not come up to scratch for the job. Some people might think my standard of entry might be too difficult for even the average person to pass but it won't be me who sets the standard.
I have no doubt that every test has it failure rate that's why the London knowledge test has a drop out rate of 80%. However, the London knowledge is unique and although it is said it could be condensed to less than two years I think any national entry test for the provinces should not take anywhere near the time it takes to complete the London test.
I advocate a national Taxi driving certificate which would consist of perhaps two parts, part one would be a mandatory knowledge test of the standard DfT bylaws and legislation of the rules and regulations Governing both sectors of hackney carriage and private hire. There would be an oral written English and maths test. The pass rate would be set no lower than 90%. The second phase of the test would be localised to the area where the badge was to be effected. It would consist of a local street knowledge test consisting of landmarks, interesting places, Airports, train stations, hospitals, places of entertainment, street navigation and anything else that is appropriate including local bylaws and conditions? The percentage pass rate would be set no lower than 90%.
Other elements of testing such as driving skills, DDA awareness, fitness certificates etc etc….. is for someone else to decide not me.
It is not me who will be responsible for implementing any test or exam, however the details of any future driver quality control system should be considered very carefully and discussed widely with a sensible approach for what is to be achieved.
Driving tests and DDA awareness etc etc are things I'm not overly concerned about. I'll let others lose sleep on how they should be implemented into any quality control certificate?
The bottom line as Dusty says, is that you don't just turn up, answer a few questions, drive around town for half an hour and you get issued a badge, those days will be a thing of the past.
My idea of quality controls would mean studying and sitting proper tests or even several modules before you go on to the second part of the badge certificate.
Driver quality controls could be implemented under a one-tier system, or a two-tier system.
I should remind you that several organisations including the T&G have in the past advocated similar standards to those I have suggested. It should also be remembered that the DfT in 1994 stated additional driving tests imposed on taxi and P/H drivers by some authorities are not justified. I have an open mind on this aspect and believe that persons who have continually been driving for some considerable time should perhaps be exempt from these driving tests.
In 1994 the T&G told the select committee that they wanted to see "National requirements for Taxi drivers. The requirement was to show knowledge of Taxi legislation, vehicle maintenance, customer care skills and economic skills".
DPTAC believed that training in meeting the needs of passengers with disabilities, was an essential part of driver's qualifications and should be introduced on a mandatory basis.
NATPHLEO said it would be helpful to train drivers in first aid.
The NFTA, your outfit, said the knowledge test contributed greatly to safety and enhanced the level of service.
So you see, quality control of drivers is not knew, it’s the fact that you guys have been so preoccupied with plate values that you've failed to see the bigger picture. Your failure has probable set this trade back decades.
It's alright the T & G saying we defeated the OFT and then sitting back to bask in their five minutes of glory but the sad fact is, that the proverbial chickens are now well and truly coming home to roost. And it’s all down to you lot, whether you like it or not?
Regards
JD
JD
at the risk of disagreeing with you, your talking pants.
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For quite some time I've advocated higher quality control standards for drivers in order to make entry harder for those who do not come up to scratch for the job. Some people might think my standard of entry might be too difficult for even the average person to pass but it won't be me who sets the standard.
Whilst you state higher quality standards, you fail to say what those standards are, save for now.
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I have no doubt that every test has it failure rate that's why the London knowledge test has a drop out rate of 80%. However, the London knowledge is unique and although it is said it could be condensed to less than two years I think any national entry test for the provinces should not take anywhere near the time it takes to complete the London test.
London is a City with a massive population and the knowledge of London is legendary, it is however a very false basis to aim standards at, on this we seem to agree.
Edinburgh has a pretty decent knowledge test, yet is incomparable with London. I understand a decent trainer would get a complete outsider through that particular test in 3 to 4 weeks. At the moment its taking about 5 weeks to get a CRB check returned, to be honest whats the greater difficulty? passing a knowledge test or waiting for your CRB to return?
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I advocate a national Taxi driving certificate which would consist of perhaps two parts, part one would be a mandatory knowledge test of the standard DfT bylaws and legislation of the rules and regulations Governing both sectors of hackney carriage and private hire. There would be an oral written English and maths test. The pass rate would be set no lower than 90%. The second phase of the test would be localised to the area where the badge was to be effected. It would consist of a local street knowledge test consisting of landmarks, interesting places, Airports, train stations, hospitals, places of entertainment, street navigation and anything else that is appropriate including local bylaws and conditions? The percentage pass rate would be set no lower than 90%.
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Other elements of testing such as driving skills, DDA awareness, fitness certificates etc etc….. is for someone else to decide not me.
Unfortunately I think both aspects are outside of your remit.
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The bottom line as Dusty says, is that you don't just turn up, answer a few questions, drive around town for half an hour and you get issued a badge, those days will be a thing of the past.
If youve applied for a CRB recently I think you'll find you no longer simply collect your license, or indeed if you wish to pass a DSA test.
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I should remind you that several organisations including the T&G have in the past advocated similar standards to those I have suggested. It should also be remembered that the DfT in 1994 stated additional driving tests imposed on taxi and P/H drivers by some authorities are not justified. I have an open mind on this aspect and believe that persons who have continually been driving for some considerable time should perhaps be exempt from these driving tests.
Thats very big hearted of you.
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The NFTA, your outfit, said the knowledge test contributed greatly to safety and enhanced the level of service.
So you see, quality control of drivers is not knew, it’s the fact that you guys have been so preoccupied with plate values that you've failed to see the bigger picture. Your failure has probable set this trade back decades.
It's alright the T & G saying we defeated the OFT and then sitting back to bask in their five minutes of glory but the sad fact is, that the proverbial chickens are now well and truly coming home to roost. And it’s all down to you lot, whether you like it or not?
Pre-occupied with plate values?
You seem to have a very one tracked opinion for an open minded person.
My failure? WOW! I take a job am in it for a couple of years and I get made responsible for the past two centuries?
However, I am a sharing person, my opinion is that your responsible too, because I dont tend to hold the trade as my own posession, its everybody's.
I cannot speak for the T&G (or NTA for that matter), but please expand on the chickens coming home to roost.
To my recollection the last bit of news from the DFT was a success for the entire trade, the fact that seven day contracts have been around for 30 years and in Carlisle two months, is of course irrelavent
regards
CC