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but if the owner offered a crap deal, they would have the freedom to go elsewhere

What you mean like Mr Skulls manor? :?

Where drivers are told to 'like it or lump it', and if they go elsewhere are told to 'like it or lump it'. :-s

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its funny observing the holy trinity in action, fact is they should be 100% behind immigration as its a form of competition, lets just say that this carry on is deregulation and you should be supporting it.


Because of your new found belief in a competitive market I take it you are 100% behind the present unchecked mass migration of Eastern Europeans?

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http://www.dunross.co.uk/

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true, but how would you do a crb check on them? if they have only just got in?


I think the answer should be on the above link.

I understand the country supplying the labour will provide evidence of the 'foreign' drivers character and criminal history to satisfy the criteria laid down by the CRB and British Government and of course the LA.

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So you complain about your local trade being "anarchy" and about how paltry drivers' earnings are, yet you want to make that worse by encouraging cheap labour to enter the country?

On the other hand, you have also complained that you can't get drivers for your own vehicles.

It's all beginning to make sense now. :D

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OK JD compulsory voting and PR agreed .
As for Liverpool i have no immediate knowledge of the situation there
would to read the other point from you say the unions why not post it.
As for Frank Field have had no dealings with understand he is on the right of the party.
Sussex why didnt i stand 20yrs ago could have made A list didnt bother now about as welcome as a doseof syph to current party.
Did stand for Camden Council got flash took on a tory ward and got mullerd due to greens dividing vote.Funny thing could havestood in solid Irish ward Kilburn and walked it oh well wouldnt have lasted most cllrs elected Blairite scum.And as for you Sussex who the F**k are you what have you done joined the union yet paying your subs?


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So you complain about your local trade being anarchy and about how poor drivers' earnings are, yet you want to make that worse by encouraging cheap labour to enter the country?

On the other hand, you have also complained that you can't get drivers for your own vehicles.

It's all beginning to make sense now.


Are you suggesting that dunross/taxifast are operating illegally?

In so far as I am aware they are operating 100% legal.

I dont actually believe I have expressed an opinion either way.

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Are you suggesting that dunross/taxifast are operating illegally?

In so far as I am aware they are operating 100% legal.


What on earth are you on about Captain? When did I suggest or even allude to any illegality?

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I dont actually believe I have expressed an opinion either way.


My point was that you seem to be of the opinion that an open door policy on immigration is a good thing while at the same time complaining about an oversupply in your local trade?

These two stances seem contradictory, so which have I summarised incorrectly, or how do you reconcile the two? :-k

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Are you suggesting that dunross/taxifast are operating illegally?

In so far as I am aware they are operating 100% legal.


What on earth are you on about Captain? When did I suggest or even allude to any illegality?

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I dont actually believe I have expressed an opinion either way.


My point was that you seem to be of the opinion that an open door policy on immigration is a good thing while at the same time complaining about an oversupply in your local trade?

These two stances seem contradictory, so which have I summarised incorrectly, or how do you reconcile the two?


We seem to be talking at crossed purposes.

my post on this thread was in answer to 187 ums, where he asked about CRB checks and European drivers.

you mentioned something i thought was in response to my post, i therefore answered in that manner.

I think the point is, in answer to your question, is that if a person is able to pass and satisfy local conditions of license, and is in this country 100% legal. Then nobody can really question that fact.

To use a differing train of thought, what is the difference between somebody coming from another area of the UK to drive a cab in your district and a person coming from another part of the European Union? Surely both must pass the same laid down criteria?

The answer is obviously there is no difference.

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http://www.dunross.co.uk/

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true, but how would you do a crb check on them? if they have only just got in?


I think the answer should be on the above link.

I understand the country supplying the labour will provide evidence of the 'foreign' drivers character and criminal history to satisfy the criteria laid down by the CRB and British Government and of course the LA.

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What evidence do you have to support your understanding that the country supplying the labour also supplies CRB checks?


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What evidence do you have to support your understanding that the country supplying the labour also supplies CRB checks?


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I would be delighted to advise but you'd have to email me for a response.

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What evidence do you have to support your understanding that the country supplying the labour also supplies CRB checks?


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I would be delighted to advise but you'd have to email me for a response.

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Well let me show you this.

Dan Taylor, a director of Dunross recruitment, based in Prague, said: "We were asked by Taxifast to find potential drivers, to arrange interviews and help get "reference checks".

I don't see any reference to official CRB checks do you? Anyone can get reference checks but those giving the reference won't be able to cite chapter and verse of every offence the candidate has or has not committed?

Now we either get parity on this or we don't but one thing is certain, we need to know just what criminal background checks are being made on foreign nationals applying for licenses? After all that is part and parcel of the law in licensing Taxi and Private hire drivers.

So I ask you once again, without being Coy and without you taking the 5th amendment on the right to remain silent. Everyone on TDO and the Taxi industry I suspect will be most interested to know of the diligence and authenticity surrounding these supposed CRB checks?

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I would be delighted to adives you JD, but it would be via email or post,of course you could wait until the next issue of taxitalk.

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I think the point is, in answer to your question, is that if a person is able to pass and satisfy local conditions of license, and is in this country 100% legal. Then nobody can really question that fact.


So as long as something is within the law then it's unquestionable? Somehow I don't think that's how the real world works.


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To use a differing train of thought, what is the difference between somebody coming from another area of the UK to drive a cab in your district and a person coming from another part of the European Union? Surely both must pass the same laid down criteria?


Err, who was it who said:

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I tend to believe a lot of our Asian drivers in this country were actually born here and they are as British as myself. Indeed, if they come originally from a country such as Pakistan I don’t have a problem with that either, because they were part of the Empire, Eastern Europe wasn’t.

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I think the point is, in answer to your question, is that if a person is able to pass and satisfy local conditions of license, and is in this country 100% legal. Then nobody can really question that fact.


So as long as something is within the law then it's unquestionable? Somehow I don't think that's how the real world works.


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To use a differing train of thought, what is the difference between somebody coming from another area of the UK to drive a cab in your district and a person coming from another part of the European Union? Surely both must pass the same laid down criteria?


Err, who was it who said:

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I tend to believe a lot of our Asian drivers in this country were actually born here and they are as British as myself. Indeed, if they come originally from a country such as Pakistan I don’t have a problem with that either, because they were part of the Empire, Eastern Europe wasn’t.



In so far as you work as a licensed driver,you surely have to work within the remit of your license? Which is of course the context to what I was meaning.

I laid down a point, why did you answer it in that manner, are you trying to say theres a contradiction? I dont really see one.

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