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So, with regard to the NTA's response to the OFT report, how much of the document was devoted to issues other than restricted numbers, because my recollection was that it was almost wholly about that issue.

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So, with regard to the NTA's response to the OFT report, how much of the document was devoted to issues other than restricted numbers, because my recollection was that it was almost wholly about that issue.


I dont know I didnt write it, I dont think immigrant drivers were mentioned in it though.

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No prizes for guessing who said this, but what was he talking about?

Was it, A. Trevor Jones of Sefton? B. Dennis Conyon NTA? Or C. Pinocchio?

Now then, what was this person referring to?

Was it, A. Quality control of drivers? B. Quantity control of vehicle licenses? or C. Quality control of vehicles?

"I believe that if you take away the controls, the quality must invariably drop because the earning power will drop and if you do not earn the same amount of money obviously you have to try and cut corners.

You could be forgiven for thinking this individual was talking about quality control of drivers but If you answered B for both Questions then give yourself a pat on the back.

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Will this link tell me how many people or local organisations are affiliated to the NTA or is it just an NTA history lesson?

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Its a history of the NTA, the figures you want are unavailable.


You mean they are available but not to me? lol

Anyway, I've worked out, that if the NTA consisted of 150 affiliated associations throughout England and Wales with each association having 50 members, (which incidentally is a rather generous figure), the NTA would represent 7,500 people.

You may think that's minuscule, and you would of course be correct? In fact, it is so minuscule that it represents less than 2.7% of the combined total of Taxi and Private hire drivers in England and Wales. If we are generous and give the NTA credit for having all 343 licensing areas affiliated it would still only give them a representation of 6%.

Not withstanding the fact that the NTA will probably say they don't represent Drivers and certainly not P/H drivers, they only represent taxi owners.

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Most work in London as there is no knowledge test for PH

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captain cab wrote:
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I'll make a response to your post tommorrow.

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ok TDO here goes

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I think it says a bit more than that, surely? The purpose of the article was to juxtapose the two approaches - ie quantity and quality control - assess how they impact on the trade and to that extent conclude that quality control is superior, and that sentiment is encapsulated in the article's title. The purpose of that kind of article is to argue the case on a point of principle, since while myself and others are persuaded by the quality control argument, it's clear that many in and associated with the trade don't.


Whatever the intent the article cites quality control, it appears strange that the type of quality you want isnt in the article.

How can you assess without citing what you mean to implement?

How can you state quality control is superior without stating what the quality actually is?

You then state the trade apparently dont want your quality control? Now that is hardly a fair assessment when you consider the article hasnt put any specifics in.

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As I said the other day, the article is about broad principles and not the minutiae of what consitutes quality control, since surely the vast majority of people in reading the article will know what I mean in the broad sense - don't you?

In any case, I did refer to knowledge tests and I referred to drivers only requiring an ordinary driving licesnse, thus implying that a higher standard in that direction would be one way of improving things.

As regards some in the trade not liking the idea of quality control, there are umpteen examples, and the Bournemouth scenario that I cited is only one of many - Edinburgh is another. And it's not just that the vested interests often like to see knowledge tests dumbed down or abolished, but they very often object to new facets of quality control being introduced - the DSA test in Brighton, for example.

QC works - why do you think the London trade get so uppity about anyone questioning the KOL, for example?

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You then state the trade apparently dont want your quality control? Now that is hardly a fair assessment when you consider the article hasnt put any specifics in.



I wasn't talking about 'my' QC, I was talking about QC generally, and my assumption was that most people would know what I mean - surely it's obvious, without going into specifics?

And I refer you to a part of the article that you presumably didn't reach?

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On the other hand, a reasonable knowledge test and a driving test (as a minimum) can boost earnings, provide a better quality service and in general lead to a more professional trade, as compared to the part-time/’between jobs’ environment currently evident in many areas. And such an approach is hardly revolutionary, since it’s already in place in many parts of the country.

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TDO,

I was trying to be a little objective, and I thought my points were actually constructive.

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