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I'm afraid you'll have to ask the T&G representative about that one, a little knowledge is always confusing...

Mr Bolton.. I have spoken to quite a number of private hire drivers today, funnily enough they don't even know who are. I also spoke to two of the major Southport private hire companies and they were not very polite about you, so who exactly do you represent.

I thought SODA was an abbreviation of a hobby

hehe

CC

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George Carlin

GA, quite a few years before Mr Boltons Association came into existence the Hackney and private hire trade in Sefton worked together to contain licensing fees, Seftons policy regarding licensing fees was to implement a rate of inflation charge each year, now seeing that the trades managed to stop this practice in 98 , and then went on to clawback over £170,000 would seem to me, what you could call a good working relationship, and still do mostly.
The trade are the people who have benefited from these savings the licence fee in 98 was a £120 and 2005 was still £120 , you would have to see the whole picture of the way Sefton works to understand each and every item, £2 on a three-year driving licence compared to the savings on all licensing fees to me would seem good value.
There'll Always Be Someone or some association that has a different opinion or even Purpose ,
ps.GA I have have just realised that according to JD. I do not go to these meetings

But even an idiot would summise from the PH consultation that took place in that surevy of yours that private hire were not involved in, that private hire claimed they were excluded from meetings

I get the feeling there's a hiddne (well not so much hidden as a punch in the face) type agenda going on.

I get the feeling someones miffed because they wanted a free issue license and now they want to make some noise.

same the world over

CC

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George Carlin

Not so much noise, more like a continuous high-pitched whining......

Who actually proposed the survey levy and was it an across the board proposal or just aimed at the P/H sector? And why was the levy proposed in the first place?

JD

I think in restricted areas there is a good case for seperating Private hire revenue from Hackney carriage revenue.

Before 1976 licensing authorities only had Hackney carriage revenues to administer their licensing functions. In hindsight private hire licensing should have been kept seperate as they have nothing whatsoever to do with the way hackney carriages function.

In most restricted authorities it is the private hire section that supplies the bulk of the revenue yet there is no earthly reason why any of that money should be spent on the hackney carriage trade. It wasn't done before 1976 and there is no reason why it should be done, after 1976.

I suggest all you private hire associations in restricted areas should lobby your council to try and get you funds seperated from those of the hackney carrige trade.

Regards

JD

as they have nothing whatsoever to do with the way hackney carriages function.


I think you need to ask Mr Bolton why he considers that the private hire should have a say as to where Hackney ranks are placed'; his views and complaints are well documented

Before 1976 licensing authorities only had Hackney carriage revenues to administer their licensing functions. In hindsight private hire licensing should have been kept seperate as they have nothing whatsoever to do with the way hackney carriages function



Interesting bit of backward logic. so if a district is over Run With private hire illegally picking up off the road,then the cab trade should bear the cost of enforcement ,it seems to methe cost should be met from private hire licensing revenue, and obviously running the two together is more cost-effective.

I don't think I made any reference to enforcement, did I? Just concentrate on what I said not what I didn't say.

JD

I have seen some stupid suggestions in my time, and this one is getting close to the top of the list.

CC

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Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
George Carlin

I have seen some stupid suggestions in my time, and this one is getting close to the top of the list.

CC

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Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
George Carlin

Based on the DfT 2004 Sefton numbers,

P/H Vehicle testing and badge revenue alone was 273,900

Hackney carriage revenue was 63,570

That means Private hire contribute a massive 210,330 per year more than the hackney carriage trade

Hackney carriage revenue amounts to 18.8% per year for the two items I mentioned namely badges and vehicle testing.

Private hire generates a massive 81.2%

The total revenues based on the 2004 DfT figures is 337,470

So we can see who is propping up Sefton licensing department, maybe its a case of the tail wagging the dog in Sefton?

These figures demonstrate exactly why the two trades in restricted areas should be separated.

Taxi licensing should be taken away from councils because they use it as a political football. Regional bodies should be set up as is the case in Bus licensing but the quantity control supporters won't like that because in effect there wouldn't be any quantity controls. That's why you lot want to see councils retain control of Taxi licensing.

If I was a private hire driver in Sefton I would start letting these councillors know who pays for the upkeep of their licensing department. Maybe they should all up sticks and move over to Knowsley and take their 274 grand with them. They can still legally work Sefton to their hearts content. Nothing changes only the office premises from where they work.

By the way the two pound levy based on 2004 stats which I didn't include, unless the 99 pound badge fee already includes the two pound levy? Would see private hire paying 4,560 pounds and Hackney carriage including the ten dual badge holders 1,050 pounds.

I expect Private hire numbers have increased since 2004 so naturaly they would now pay more than what I quoted for 2004.

Regards

JD

Backward logic again, the Licensing Office would have exactly the same costs as it has now if it was simply to license and enforce the private hire, so you want the private hire drivers to pay the extra £63,000 through their licensing fees, I do not think you would be very popular, but as usual JD knows best. mind you the thought of having the enforcement team working 100 per cent on private hire drivers does have a certain appeal especially in Southport