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PostPosted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 1:53 pm 
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And my office staff are under firm instructions to specifically not give long distance work to drivers who have been working over a set period of time.




They send you instead, say for instance, to an Airport near Newcastle? :wink:


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They send you instead, say for instance, to an Airport near Newcastle?


yep they are the very bastions (possibly a typo) of efficiency.

I dont see Mr GMB moaning about me being called out on Saturday night to take passengers to Blackpool, or being called out on Monday night to take passengers to Glasgow :shock:

No, I'm the evil bosses :roll:

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At least a half sensible debate,however in the chaueffeur industry downhere drivers are told do it or give us the keys,even though that driver might have been on the road 15hrs and coverd 6or 700 miles.This is not an isolated incident but the custom and practice of the industry.Clearly the person making this threat is not a fit and proper person to run a chaueffeur company.The driver is in the same position as our mate Rambo,and usually takes the same option not to protest at
illegal victimisation unfortunately in this there is a good chance of him killing someone.Were the driver forced too drink a bottle of scotch everyone would agree madness.Fact had he drunk the scotch he would be in better physical condition than when tired all things being equalThese practices must obviously be stopped.How many of the 600 families mourning the loss of a loved one owe it to the above scenario?One would be too many in my opinion.In a recent survey carrisd out by GMB 60% of drivers interviewed reported co-ercion to work when tired was the NORM we will not tolerate it can anyone suggest a reason why we should??

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At least a half sensible debate,however in the chaueffeur industry downhere drivers are told do it or give us the keys,even though that driver might have been on the road 15hrs and coverd 6or 700 miles.This is not an isolated incident but the custom and practice of the industry.Clearly the person making this threat is not a fit and proper person to run a chaueffeur company.The driver is in the same position as our mate Rambo,and usually takes the same option not to protest at
illegal victimisation unfortunately in this there is a good chance of him killing someone.Were the driver forced too drink a bottle of scotch everyone would agree madness.Fact had he drunk the scotch he would be in better physical condition than when tired all things being equalThese practices must obviously be stopped.How many of the 600 families mourning the loss of a loved one owe it to the above scenario?One would be too many in my opinion.In a recent survey carrisd out by GMB 60% of drivers interviewed reported co-ercion to work when tired was the NORM we will not tolerate it can anyone suggest a reason why we should??

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GMB, we at last agree on something, If lorry drivers can only work a certain amount of hours, why not taxi drivers?.
The problem is that if we work 40 hrs a week we can't earn a decent living, it's the same all over the country.
I applaud the fact that you are trying to do something about it, but I don't like the way you slag people off who won't follow your lead. At the end of the day we have to put food on the table, and most of us cannot just report our boss and leave.
If I did report my boss, he would make my job unbearable and I would have to leave, yes I may get compansation for dismissal, but the PHV world is a small one, and I would never get a job at another office again, you know why?, the guvnors would think don't take him on he's a trouble maker.
Not fair I know, but the real world.

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In a recent survey carrisd out by GMB 60% of drivers interviewed reported co-ercion to work when tired was the NORM

That happens even in the friendliest of firms. When there is bucket loads of work, the ops don't like it if you go home. :roll: :roll:

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Spot on sussex.

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rambo wrote:
GMB, we at last agree on something, If lorry drivers can only work a certain amount of hours, why not taxi drivers?.
The problem is that if we work 40 hrs a week we can't earn a decent living, it's the same all over the country.
I applaud the fact that you are trying to do something about it, but I don't like the way you slag people off who won't follow your lead. At the end of the day we have to put food on the table, and most of us cannot just report our boss and leave.
If I did report my boss, he would make my job unbearable and I would have to leave, yes I may get compansation for dismissal, but the PHV world is a small one, and I would never get a job at another office again, you know why?, the guvnors would think don't take him on he's a trouble maker.
Not fair I know, but the real world.


I couldn't of put it better myself :wink:

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rambo wrote:
The problem is that if we work 40 hrs a week we can't earn a decent living, it's the same all over the country.



I disagree. :wink:


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perhaps doing a 18 hour shift on a Saturday, 12 hours on a friday and 10 hours on a Sunday.

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or you could be like the ones on benefits and tax credits that are allowed to work 16 hrs a week, choose the best hours, the cream hours, who police's them to see if they stick to 16hrs.

makes me wonder how some drivers do it, finishing at 04.30 hrs in the morning and then seen sat on the rank a few hours later at 10.00 hrs for another days work, don't these people sleep.


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stinky pete your right 20hr shifts then back on the road,i guarantee you we will do everything within our power to JAIL and bankrupt the disgusting
vermin responsible.
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stinky pete your right 20hr shifts then back on the road,i guarantee you we will do everything within our power to JAIL and bankrupt the disgusting
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Excellent GMB

Now take those LA's issuing licenses to all and sundry.
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perhaps doing a 18 hour shift on a Saturday, 12 hours on a friday and 10 hours on a Sunday.

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The two single digits before 18 and 12 could be removed.

I should be out now, but its raining and the cab will get dirty. :D


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Well a debate with very little slagging my word.and ultimately it would appear broad agreement with the GMB stance.Must point out sussex your ops would of course accompany you to the nick.if you told them you were tired.they co-erced you to do a job and you were involved in a traffic fatality.I note that MrT and the Captain tried too distance themselves from the drivers possibly, down to the fact that they are in effect governors.The crucial issue arising is of course that hour limitations mean lower earnings on present fare structures.Obviously safety must come first,but for the industry too survive serious analysis of fare structures is essential.In London we find obscsne practices where drivers go from docklands to Heathrow for as little as £35 then wait for hours for a return job,this a premiere service in Mercs etc.When we examine the chauffeur companies financial reports we find vast profits,from a clientele of the worlds largest corperations,the drivers report harrasment,victimisation,illegal deductions,below minimum wage earnings.A couple of years ago we won a union recognition ballot at Tri-Star europes biggest chauffeur company.The practices at that company at that time defy belief.but payment by guess work,instructing drivers too pick up on red routes where the driver was guaranteed a ticket,receiving the ticket allowing it to double in value,then paying it and deducting from the drivers earnings without notification snd charging a £25 admin fee to do it. since our recognition agreement all underhand practices have ceased and the company works closelywith us on many issues.The company had to sign a WTD agreement with us and now pressures us to obtain a level playing field for them.much of the chauffeur industry is niw beginning to feel the results of our recruiting we will clean it up!!!!!!!!!!

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