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The pro regulation community in cahoots with pro deregulationists?

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Who do you highlight as being pro and who is anti?

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Who do you highlight as being pro and who is anti?

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I think both sides are against a bloke, who in theory is delevolping a form of business.

A mutual threat?

The 85 transport act is fairly clear regards business.

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Who do you highlight as being pro and who is anti?

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I think both sides are against a bloke, who in theory is delevolping a form of business.

A mutual threat?


If there are sides, as you put it? Would it not be in everyones interest to try and keep these bus operator's operating within the law, rather than outside it?

I was under the impression your reference was aimed at my remarks congratulating Brighton for a job well done.

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If there are sides, as you put it? Would it not be in everyones interest to try and keep these bus operator's operating within the law, rather than outside it?

I was under the impression your reference was aimed at my remarks congratulating Brighton for a job well done.

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I'm all for seeing the trades united JD, but there could be a case for stating Mr Tuk Tuk may have a business opportunity being blighted.

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If there are sides, as you put it? Would it not be in everyones interest to try and keep these bus operator's operating within the law, rather than outside it?

I was under the impression your reference was aimed at my remarks congratulating Brighton for a job well done.

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I'm all for seeing the trades united JD, but there could be a case for stating Mr Tuk Tuk may have a business opportunity being blighted.

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Yes I understand your concern but at the end of the day we all have to operate within the prescribed rules. If Mr Tuc Tuc and other bus companies have sound business plans there is no reason why they shouldn't succeed. Throughout the country Buses think they are a law unto themselves and in my opinion any action that exposes the wrongdoings of these bus companies is most welcome.

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Yes I understand your concern but at the end of the day we all have to operate within the prescribed rules. If Mr Tuc Tuc and other bus companies have sound business plans there is no reason why they shouldn't succeed. Throughout the country Buses think they are a law unto themselves and in my opinion any action that exposes the wrongdoings of these bus companies is most welcome.

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I dont actually think we're too wide apart on this one JD.

Buses, due to their size and their subsidised income are a law unto themselves.

However, the 85 transport act in connection with HC's encourages the development of business. I would have thought Mr Tuk Tuk would have gone for the HC plate option....and balls to the WAV ruling, because its a type of business different to those HC's currently operating.

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However, the 85 transport act in connection with HC's encourages the development of business. I would have thought Mr Tuk Tuk would have gone for the HC plate option....and balls to the WAV ruling, because its a type of business different to those HC's currently operating.


As you know, I have consistantly stated that I'm surprised more people don't try and use section 12 as a means of obtaining a hackney carriage license? Mr Tuc Tuc could go down that route but I have no doubt it would end up in court. Mr Tuc Tuc is only young and perhaps he doesn't realise that there is another avenue open to him that might bear fruit? He would still have to keep to timetables of course but his operation would be more flexible and it would be interesting to see how it played out in court.

Maybe we should send him an invitation to post on TDO? Alternately you could write to him reminding him of the other possible options under the 1985 act? lol

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Interesting that Mr Tuk Tuk should have support by those in the NTA that pretend to represent the cab trade.

Maybe it's a case of as it doesn't effect the plate premium, then who gives a f***. :sad:

What some people don't realise is that the Tuk Tuk issue in Brighton is nothing compared to what could happen if like minded folk put on fleets of 8-seaters.

Think of all that station work that could be lost, think of all that airport work that could be lost, think of all those schools runs that could be lost.

But hey, as long as we have the likes of the NTA the likes of the Tuk Tuks can do what they like. Even with their un-licensed, un-checked drivers. :sad:

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At least we have some in the trade that wish to fight for it, even if they are from Brighton. :wink:

http://www.theargus.co.uk/display.var.9 ... _times.php

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As you know, I have consistantly stated that I'm surprised more people don't try and use section 12 as a means of obtaining a hackney carriage license? Mr Tuc Tuc could go down that route but I have no doubt it would end up in court. Mr Tuc Tuc is only young and perhaps he doesn't realise that there is another avenue open to him that might bear fruit? He would still have to keep to timetables of course but his operation would be more flexible and it would be interesting to see how it played out in court.

Maybe we should send him an invitation to post on TDO? Alternately you could write to him reminding him of the other possible options under the 1985 act? lol

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I was just raising a point :wink:

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Interesting that Mr Tuk Tuk should have support by those in the NTA that pretend to represent the cab trade.

Maybe it's a case of as it doesn't effect the plate premium, then who gives a f***.

What some people don't realise is that the Tuk Tuk issue in Brighton is nothing compared to what could happen if like minded folk put on fleets of 8-seaters.

Think of all that station work that could be lost, think of all that airport work that could be lost, think of all those schools runs that could be lost.

But hey, as long as we have the likes of the NTA the likes of the Tuk Tuks can do what they like. Even with their un-licensed, un-checked drivers.


Heres me thinking you were the bastion of free enterprise.

You want regulation when it suits?

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What many people can't seem to work out, or choose to ignore, is the massive difference between standards and restrictions.

When you apply standards, anyone can meet them provided they are 'fair and reasonable', and if they are not, then they can be challenged.

Restrictions are what they say, a restriction on entry.

It would seem the likes of the NTA don't give a f*** about standards, but to keep their membership sweet, love a good quota. :sad:

And I thought the T&G were bad. :shock:

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At least we have some in the trade that wish to fight for it, even if they are from Brighton. :wink:

http://www.theargus.co.uk/display.var.9 ... _times.php


The article clearly points out that the surveys revealed these vehicles were not keeping to time tables and acting like "Taxis". That has always been my point in respect of all bus activity. The policing of buses is farcical throughout the country and if it wasn't for the diligence of the Brighton Taxi trade this is another activity that would have gone unchecked.

They must keep on top of the situation and report every instance of plying for hire at the station when they overstay their allotted time and any timetable contravention?

If this outfit is banned in Brighton they may find it very difficult to get a license elsewhere in the country and it just might deter others who think they can get a bus license and operate as a Taxi.

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What many people can't seem to work out, or choose to ignore, is the massive difference between standards and restrictions.

When you apply standards, anyone can meet them provided they are 'fair and reasonable', and if they are not, then they can be challenged.

Restrictions are what they say, a restriction on entry.

It would seem the likes of the NTA don't give a f*** about standards, but to keep their membership sweet, love a good quota.

And I thought the T&G were bad.


I beg your pardon for raising a legitimate point about the 1985 transport act.

By standards I take it you mean your standards.

And the NTA had nothing to do with my comments.

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