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PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 10:46 am 
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Well at least we now know where the thickest drivers can be found.

At www.fish4.co.uk there are over 500 jobs within a 20 mile radius of Newcastle. :wink:


This shows how real THICK people behave.

I will ask only one question ................. who will clear the finance on the vehicles to allow the current owner to take another job.

Or are you expecting people to work full or part time and still drive their cab ....................... or are you expecting people to commute using a £20k+ vehicle to a basic wage job.

People are being lured into this job by idiots like Sussex claiming he is making thousands as PH with the HC's making even more ................ that might be the reality he see's in Eastbourne but its sure not the reality everywhere else.

And your arguments are so convincing Eastbourne still retain quantative controls. :wink:

B. Lucky :lol:

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If I was doing a long run of 9to 10 hours I would include B and B in the fare I would not put my passengers or myself at risk
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Really can't see this working as it will mean that for major airport runs - allowing 4 hours each way and an hour in the airport to pick up it'll need two drivers! And what happens to the longer runs that I do - some mean a 9 - 10 hour each way trip - will I have to have a second driver for them as well? Is the fare paying passenger going to wear the increase in fares to cover this as well?

As for operators, and yes I used to be one, we always worked 8 hour rolling shifts - 8am - 4pm, 4pm - midnight, midnight to 8am; along side - 10am - 6pm, 6pm to 2am and 2am to 10am, with the third operator shift being noon to 8pm, 8pm to 4am and 4am to noon. And yes, I was just as guilty of it but the main reason ops are so tired is that they drive cabs in between shifts, or cover a school run, or an airport. Sound familiar?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 3:58 pm 
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I dont think drivers will ever restricted to 48hrs


I already am, and thta on a bad week. :wink:
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thta? :shock:
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thta? :shock:

Oh dear, it must be catching. :D

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rambo wrote:
THe only problem with 12hr shifts is no break, 45 minutes off for some food would be nice but inpractical.


I reckon controllers/base operators are the most qualified people within a taxi company to both look after existing customers and to generate new work.

After all it's the base staff who spend all their working day talking to and sending customers their taxis.

I am sure it would break the shift up nicely if half of it was spent out and about meeting and greeting customers and half actually on the base dispatching, two teams working it between them half a day about.

The customers would love it too, 'cos then they would know exactly who to blame when the taxi was late. :lol:

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Onzon, do you actually work in a cab office?, or have you been smoking the wacky baccy :wink:

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It's interesting that you should think that I must be at least temporarily crazy to suggest that twelve hours is too long a work period for base operating.

Not only that, but you are even defending the impracticality of taking a break in that twelve hour period. :shock:

Now what planet exactly do you hail from?

Never mind the countries of origin of your drivers - that's small potatoes compared to this.

I bet there's a great many proprietors up and down the country who really would like to improve their base staff working conditions. But it seems that before that can happen, base staff such as yourself will have to be dragged kicking and screaming into the 21st century - which is where the rest of us are - away from the Dickensian period, where you clearly still are at the moment.

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THe only problem with 12hr shifts is no break, 45 minutes off for some food would be nice but inpractical.

ffs :lol:

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The dog's in Battersea. :)

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ONZON your right how do you get workers to stand up for their rights,a 12 hr shift with no break.Dickensian indeed,bet the turks wouldnt do it!
Sussex working is on duty,you sit at rank your working.Get out of cab sit in cafe not available for work,not working.Simple eh?
What most seem to miss is the insurance,and penalties issue in event of accident.H&E will be involved in all fatal accidents,no wonder they have to build more Prisons!
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What i'm saying Onzon is that I could not earn a living by doing 8 hr shifts, not right I know, but real world.

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What i'm saying Onzon is that I could not earn a living by doing 8 hr shifts, not right I know, but real world.


You could in a London Taxi. :wink:
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rambo wrote:
What i'm saying Onzon is that I could not earn a living by doing 8 hr shifts, not right I know, but real world.


But my argument is that you are only doing a 48 hour week (and even less if you divide your 8 days into a 7 day week) but you are doing it in massively long and knackering shifts.

An equivalent week would be 5 x 8.5 hours (approx).

In a 24/7 environment like the taxi trade, I do not think that there is any real reason, in this day and age, why any one needs to work very long shifts on the base. :wink:

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As it happens Onzon, that's a good idea.

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I can tell you this rambo - every base operator that I have ever known has eventually burned out, mainly (I believe) because of the long term effects of doing 12 hour shifts. :wink:

Those doing five shifts go quickest, followed by those doing four. The longest lasting ones do three or less - so you can guess how highly paid they must be to earn a living on such a low number of hours. The proprietors complain about their low hours and high hourly pay but they know they would lose them if they increased their shifts.

So why have such long shifts. Only being able to give a top class base operator 36 hours or less, is a waste of that persons talent and a loss both to that operator and the company.

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