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PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 5:03 am 
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Recent events have seen the issue of passenger kidnap resurface and no doubt people want to know were they stand? This thread is for news items I'm going to post on the subject of kidnap, which we all know is a very serious offence that carries a very high tariff.
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This is Worcestershire

April 16, 2006 Sunday

HEADLINE: Warrant for taxi driver

DATELINE: Kidderminster

A WARRANT has been issued by a judge for the arrest of a taxi driver who is accused of kidnapping a customer he picked up in Worcester.

Abdul Rashid was said by his counsel, Julian Harris, to be in Pakistan where a relative was seriously ill.


Rashid, 37, of Primrose Crescent, Kidderminster, is charged with the kidnap of Alan Stokes on November 17 last year after an alleged dispute over a fare.

Mr Harris told Worcester Crown Court that the defendant was due back in Britain on April 30.

Judge Andrew Geddes issued a warrant, not backed with bail.
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Back in 2004 an unsafe verdict of kidnap caused hell for this Mansfield Taxi driver.
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Mansfield

March 2, 2004

HEADLINE: Taxi driver wins kidnap appeal

MANSFIELD taxi driver Martin Guthrie was yesterday cleared of kidnapping and indecently assaulting a female passenger by a Court of Appeal in London. After the verdict was announced, a relieved Mr Guthrie hugged his family and announced that his '18 months of hell' were over.


A judge at the Appeal Court told 38-year-old Mr Guthrie he was free to go after ruling that the driver's convictions were 'unsafe'. Mr Guthrie, of Bosworth Street, had originally been facing up to three-and-a-half years in prison after being convicted by a jury at Nottingham Crown Court in January last year, but his sentencing was postponed when new information came to light which had not been disclosed to his defence team during the trial. The trial judge took the dramatic step of granting a certificate of fitness to appeal after hearing the female passenger who had accused Mr Guthrie had made an almost identical allegation in 1997.

The woman had claimed Mr Guthrie had picked her up in his cab after she had left Mansfield's Lexis nightclub in September 2002. She said he drove her home, but then locked the doors, put his car in reverse and drove to an alleyway where he indecently assaulted her. She said he only let her out when she told him she needed the toilet and she had run off across playing fields. But Mr Guthrie, who was described at his trial as a family man with no previous convictions, claimed from the outset that the woman had tricked him into letting her out of the cab so she could run off without paying the £8 fare.

At the Appeal Court yesterday Mr Justice Douglas Brown said the woman's account was 'in remarkably similar factual terms' to her complaint in 1997. On both occasions she said she had drunk a lot but was not drunk, that the drivers had told her she looked too young to have a daughter of a particular age and that they both knew where her address was and did not need to ask for directions. And in both accounts she said she had feared she would be raped or killed and had knocked on the door of a nearby house for help, but had been turned away.

But before the trial, when defence barrister Mike Evans routinely asked the Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) whether the claimant had made previous complaints, he was given the impression that she had not. Said Mr Justice Brown: "Clearly, if this information had been in the hands of Mr Evans for cross-examination it would have had a considerable effect on the jury's appreciation of the evidence of this complainant. It is obvious this was a most fundamental failure to disclose information about the complainant and the conviction clearly cannot stand".

He said this had been recognised by the CPS and it was not seeking a retrial. Mr Guthrie, who is married with two children, had his taxi licence suspended when the proceedings were launched. After being cleared he said he was unsure whether he would go back to driving a cab, but thanked his family and colleagues for their support during his ordeal.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 12:57 pm 
JD wrote:
Back in 2004 an unsafe verdict of kidnap caused hell for this Mansfield Taxi driver.
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Mansfield

March 2, 2004

HEADLINE: Taxi driver wins kidnap appeal

MANSFIELD taxi driver Martin Guthrie was yesterday cleared of kidnapping and indecently assaulting a female passenger by a Court of Appeal in London. After the verdict was announced, a relieved Mr Guthrie hugged his family and announced that his '18 months of hell' were over.


A judge at the Appeal Court told 38-year-old Mr Guthrie he was free to go after ruling that the driver's convictions were 'unsafe'. Mr Guthrie, of Bosworth Street, had originally been facing up to three-and-a-half years in prison after being convicted by a jury at Nottingham Crown Court in January last year, but his sentencing was postponed when new information came to light which had not been disclosed to his defence team during the trial. The trial judge took the dramatic step of granting a certificate of fitness to appeal after hearing the female passenger who had accused Mr Guthrie had made an almost identical allegation in 1997.

The woman had claimed Mr Guthrie had picked her up in his cab after she had left Mansfield's Lexis nightclub in September 2002. She said he drove her home, but then locked the doors, put his car in reverse and drove to an alleyway where he indecently assaulted her. She said he only let her out when she told him she needed the toilet and she had run off across playing fields. But Mr Guthrie, who was described at his trial as a family man with no previous convictions, claimed from the outset that the woman had tricked him into letting her out of the cab so she could run off without paying the £8 fare.

At the Appeal Court yesterday Mr Justice Douglas Brown said the woman's account was 'in remarkably similar factual terms' to her complaint in 1997. On both occasions she said she had drunk a lot but was not drunk, that the drivers had told her she looked too young to have a daughter of a particular age and that they both knew where her address was and did not need to ask for directions. And in both accounts she said she had feared she would be raped or killed and had knocked on the door of a nearby house for help, but had been turned away.

But before the trial, when defence barrister Mike Evans routinely asked the Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) whether the claimant had made previous complaints, he was given the impression that she had not. Said Mr Justice Brown: "Clearly, if this information had been in the hands of Mr Evans for cross-examination it would have had a considerable effect on the jury's appreciation of the evidence of this complainant. It is obvious this was a most fundamental failure to disclose information about the complainant and the conviction clearly cannot stand".

He said this had been recognised by the CPS and it was not seeking a retrial. Mr Guthrie, who is married with two children, had his taxi licence suspended when the proceedings were launched. After being cleared he said he was unsure whether he would go back to driving a cab, but thanked his family and colleagues for their support during his ordeal.
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Nigel wrote:
Posted elsewhere 2 years ago.


It was posted elswhere on TDO, two years ago by you.

http://taxi-driver.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=435

If my memory serves me well the other elswhere that you probably refer to wasn't even in existance two years ago?

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I appreciate this is a topical issue, indeed, the NTA have to act on a resolution to its recent AGM on this very issue.

However, payment or non payment of the taxi fare is a civil matter, it only becomes a criminal matter if the passenger 'bilks' (does a runner).

The question is surely whether a driver is correct in taking the passenger to the police station if it is a case or the fare being in dispute.

I get the general feeling that taxi drivers will ask for money up front before taking passengers anywhere.

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Funny how when there is a whiff of trouble they all leg it back to the mother country :wink:

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rambo wrote:
Funny how when there is a whiff of trouble they all leg it back to the mother country


Aye, these people from the North West always do that. :wink:


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Aye, these people from the North West always do that.


Aye, and your one to talk :lol:

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captain cab wrote:

However, payment or non payment of the taxi fare is a civil matter, it only becomes a criminal matter if the passenger 'bilks' (does a runner).



As per the Birmingham stuff posted on the other thread, the passenger could be done for deception even though he hasn't bilked.

The fundamental difference between the criminal and civil is that there has to be some kind of dishonest intent for the former to be relevant.

ie, if someone gets a cab and doesn't realise they have no money then when they get to the other end and can't pay then it's no use phoning the police, because the customer wasn't acting dishonestly.

However, if they never had any intention of paying then they're clearly acting dishonestly, thus could be done for deception or bilking. However, the bilking offence only comes into play once the miscreant has left the vehicle.

Of course, the difficult part could be proving that someone with no money had dishonest intent, particularly for the deception offence, but if they run off then clearly there's evidence of dishonest intent.

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 Post subject: Hi all
PostPosted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 3:50 pm 
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c.c have you read the piece from MT


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Great thread, it will be of great interest to everyone concerned. :roll:


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