Taxi Driver Online

So exactly who will need to change their operations? It will have no impact on school transport, social services transport, hospital cars, airport cars, executive limo hire to corporate clients etc. etc.

None of these are dealing with hiring to the public so still will not need to be licensed. I still will not need to license the merc on executive hire because it on hire by the day so only does one job per 24 hout period. Same with my airport work, I only assign the car to do one job per day. So I still don't need to have the car or driver licensed.

It's closed no loopholes and we've lost our ability to carry on working when under appeal. The only winners are jobworthy local authority officers who have more power to interfere with honest people trying to earn a living.

It's not been a good day for taxis!

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kevin
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Eh?

Well if that's the case then shouldn't your vehicle be licensed at the moment?

Doesn't the 24 hour exemption only apply to the dispaly of plates - it doesn't mean that you can go unlicensed?

At the moment the exemption allows vehicle under a contract of at least 7 days to remain unlicensed, but even that will go with the new legislation.

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Taxi Driver Online
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As I understand it there are three sections to the exemptions. the 24 hour exemption is not regarding the display of plates.

I'll have to sort out the legislation to get the exact wording but the three sections are 1. covers weddings and funerals, 2. one job per 24 hour period and 3. contracts of at least 7 days.


but i will definately sort out the exact wording at some stage in the future.

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kevin
http://www.monmouthtaxis.co.uk

Well here's the wording in all its glory:

75 Saving for certain vehicles etc
(I) Nothing in this Part of this Act shall —

(a) apply to a vehicle used for bringing passengers or goods within a
controlled district in pursuance of a contract for the hire of the vehicle
made outside the district if the vehicle is not made available for hire
within the district;

(b) apply to a vehicle used only for carrying passengers for hire or reward
under a contract for the hire of the vehicle for a period of not less than
seven days;

(c) apply to a vehicle while it is being used in connection with a funeral or
a vehicle used wholly or mainly, by a person carrying on the business
of a funeral director, for the purpose of funerals;

[(cc) apply to a vehicle while it is being used in connection with a wedding;]

(d) require the display of any plate, disc or notice in or on any private hire
vehicle licensed by a council under this Part of this Act during such
period that such vehicle is used for carrying passengers for hire or
reward—
(i) ...
(ii) under a contract for the hire of the vehicle for a period of not
less than 24 hours.

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Taxi Driver Online
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And that's what this forum is for, but I don't question it.

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IDFIMH

Note that the part which addresses the 24 hour exemption (ie the last bit) refers to private hire cars, thus it presupposes that the car is licenesed before the exemption even operates.

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Taxi Driver Online
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I don't think many, if any, drivers are thinking that. What they are thinking is 'great at last a level playing field'.

The stretch limo work is a god send to me, all those women and kids would drive me mad. But for their safety, these things need to be licensed and checked.

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IDFIMH

Nothing and good luck to anyone who tries to improve their lot, but in this century both drivers and vehicles need to be checked.

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IDFIMH

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IDFIMH

In order to gain a plate exemption you first have to be "licensed" by the council. If you are running around with no P/H license in a vehicle that has 8 seats or less than then you may be breaking the law, unless of course you fit into the category of those vehicles that are exempt under section 75?



You can sort out the exact wording from this.......

section 75

(b)Saving for certain vehicles etc (I) Nothing in this Part of this Act shall apply to a vehicle used only for carrying passengers for hire or reward under a contract for the hire of the vehicle for a period of not less than seven days;

(c) Saving for certain vehicles etc (I) Nothing in this Part of this Act shall apply to a vehicle while it is being used in connection with a funeral or a vehicle used wholly or mainly, by a person carrying on the business of a funeral director, for the purpose of funerals;

[(cc) apply to a vehicle while it is being used in connection with a wedding;]

(d) Saving for certain vehicles etc (I) Nothing in this Part of this Act shall require the display of any plate, disc or notice in or on any private hire vehicle "licensed" by a council under this Part of this Act during such period that such vehicle is used for carrying passengers for hire or reward under a contract for the hire of the vehicle for a period of not less than 24 hours.

Regards

JD

Ar well it looks like I'll just have to fix the contract and buy an out of area phone number and run the merc under section (a).


I'll also be interested in wether business to business hire can be covered by this act. I believe it covers hire and reward to the public. Business to business is totally different because a business is not considered to be a member of the public.

This is why when you buy something for personal use you have a lot of consumer protection but when you buy as a self employed taxi driver (and therefore a business) you are not covered.

I don't think it's going to be as simple as some people make out.

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kevin
http://www.monmouthtaxis.co.uk

Well even if that was feasible, you would still have to license the Merc in the other area.



It covers hire and reward, but doesn't discriminate between end users.

Why do you 'believe' it covers hire and reward to the public only?



In some contexts perhaps, but not in this one.



For example?



Quite

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Taxi Driver Online
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Didnt we all do well?
And then you get philistines trying wriggle through again, in my opinion the likes of Herfordian should be removed from transporting the subjects of her majesty as soon as poss!
ORGANISE EDUCATE AGITATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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The views expressed by this contributor do not neccesarily reflect the policys of The GMB Nationally or of the GMB London Region.

Sorry GBM but I think your type are likely to go the same way as your soviet paymasters - into oblivion!

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kevin
http://www.monmouthtaxis.co.uk

(I) Nothing in this Part of this Act shall —

(a) apply to a vehicle used for bringing passengers or goods within a
controlled district in pursuance of a contract for the hire of the vehicle
made outside the district if the vehicle is not made available for hire
within the district;

doesn't say anything here that the vehicle needs to be licensed anywhere. What is does say is that nothing in the act shall apply to vehicles bringing passengers into a controlled area from another area.

As I read it as long as your pick up and drop off are in different local authority areas then the act does not apply.

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kevin
http://www.monmouthtaxis.co.uk