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I may be wrong, but I think the purpose of that section is so that LAs don't require cars from another area to license in the LA's own area.

Thus the section has to be looked at from the persective of each LA - if you base your car elsewhere then that LA will be required to license you, and any LAs that you travel to with passengers will use the exemption in order that you aren't for their area.

I think it's basically saying that you only need to be licensed in one area, not areas where you may happen to travel to.

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herfordian wrote:
(I) Nothing in this Part of this Act shall —

(a) apply to a vehicle used for bringing passengers or goods within a
controlled district in pursuance of a contract for the hire of the vehicle
made outside the district if the vehicle is not made available for hire
within the district;


doesn't say anything here that the vehicle needs to be licensed anywhere. What is does say is that nothing in the act shall apply to vehicles bringing passengers into a controlled area from another area.

As I read it as long as your pick up and drop off are in different local authority areas then the act does not apply.



I take it you have no cash paying customers and all your work is contract.? :wink:

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TDO that may be true but as the law is written it exempts vehicles not licensed vehicles and i would happily take my chances in court on that.


The rest of the act is very clear on differentiating between ph and hc - hence Gladen ruling. I see no reason why the people who put the law together would be ambiguous in this section when they were clear in the other sections.

to me it is very clear that the legislators were excluding all vehicles traveling from one controlled area to another rather than just licensed vehicles.

This could prove interesting when we go to court :?

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herfordian wrote:
As I read it as long as your pick up and drop off are in different local authority areas then the act does not apply.

Even if your theory was right, which it is not, it does narrow down the amount of work you could do.

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Fortunately Sussex that is exactly the type of work I do with the merc.

all of it's work is cross border work.

I'm happy to admit when I'm wrong and I ws wrong about the 24 hour exemption. On a plus note though there was times when I turned down work for the car because it would have meant doing two jobs in 24 hours. Obviously that was wrong and now i can do a daytime trip to heathrow and an evening trip to the theatre in cardiff.

Every cloud has a silver lining as they say :mrgreen:

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Didnt we all do well?
And then you get philistines trying wriggle through again, in my opinion the likes of Herfordian should be removed from transporting the subjects of her majesty as soon as poss!
ORGANISE EDUCATE AGITATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Ah! busy making more friends Terry? :D

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herfordian wrote:
Fortunately Sussex that is exactly the type of work I do with the merc.

all of it's work is cross border work.

So all of your work starts outside your district and ends in it? :?

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all the work is cross border work. you don't get many people paying a minimum charge of £225.00 to go to the shops :) - although I do have some who use the merc to go shopping in London from monmouth -we have a real lack of shops here.

All the local work is done in my taxi.

If taxi drivers are saying they need the exemption got rid of to make a level playing field then I expect them to join in the fight supporting private hire drivers who want to pick up off the street. After all why shouldn't they operate on a level playing field as well :)

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herfordian wrote:
all the work is cross border work. you don't get many people paying a minimum charge of £225.00 to go to the shops :) - although I do have some who use the merc to go shopping in London from monmouth -we have a real lack of shops here.

Why don't you just get it licensed? :?

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If taxi drivers are saying they need the exemption got rid of to make a level playing field then I expect them to join in the fight supporting private hire drivers who want to pick up off the street. After all why shouldn't they operate on a level playing field as well


Because PH cannot ply for hire by law :shock:

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If taxi drivers are saying they need the exemption got rid of to make a level playing field then I expect them to join in the fight supporting private hire drivers who want to pick up off the street. After all why shouldn't they operate on a level playing field as well


Because PH cannot ply for hire by law :shock:

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And neither did cars on 7 day contracts until the law was changed :wink:

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all the work is cross border work. you don't get many people paying a minimum charge of £225.00 to go to the shops :) - although I do have some who use the merc to go shopping in London from monmouth -we have a real lack of shops here.

Why don't you just get it licensed? :?


I would but then I wouldn't be able to find a driver for it.

I've been offering £400 a week for a taxi driver for thelast three months with no takers. I have a waiting list of potential chauffeurs who are willing to work for £300.00 a week.

It's too expensive and too much hastle for a lot of people to know go through the process of getting a private hire or hackney carriage license. And i don't blame them. I'm seriuosly looking at getting out the taxi business and concentrating on the chauffeur drive side of things. I've had one problem when my license came up for renewal with the delays in crb returns which almost put me on the street. Now I'm married and responsible for a child I have no interest in them being put in a hostel because some local authority officer wants to play power games.

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I'm surprised you get any work at all with a £225 minimum charge :lol:

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Well i'm not going to charge £2.50 for a ride in a £50,000+ car with a tri-lingual uniformed driver, laptop workstation and power points, complimentary cool drink bar ..........

As in all things in life, you get what you pay for :)

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TDO wrote:
I'm surprised you get any work at all with a £225 minimum charge :lol:



umm lets see.....


four people going to London return train fare from Cardiff £160.00 per person plus waiting around on platforms and delays, etc

or

£350 for four people in a top of the range merc with pick up from home and drop off and pick up at shops and restaurants etc and delivered back home to the door.


£350.00 seems a bargain to me :)

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