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 Post subject: WHO DID???
PostPosted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 3:42 pm 
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So many problems in our industries revolve around EEC regs.at the time of the referendum on entry the LEFT campaigned vigorously against membership of this Capatilist Club.So if you were old enough
1.Did you vote for entry?
2.Are you happy now?
3.Seeing that we new it was crap,why didnt you.?
4.Do you think its possibble to withdraw now?
5.If your happy with us in,do you agree with admiting Turkey soon?

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1. Far too young for that lark.
2. Pleased as punch.
3. Please go to number one.
4. Possible, but aint going to happen.
5. Not really that bothered, but the French and the Germans will veto it anyway.

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So many problems in our industries revolve around EEC regs.at the time of the referendum on entry the LEFT campaigned vigorously against membership of this Capatilist Club.So if you were old enough
1.Did you vote for entry?
2.Are you happy now?
3.Seeing that we new it was crap,why didnt you.?
4.Do you think its possibble to withdraw now?
5.If your happy with us in,do you agree with admiting Turkey soon?


6. Did you?

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NEGATIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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So many problems in our industries revolve around EEC regs.at the time of the referendum on entry the LEFT campaigned vigorously against membership of this Capatilist Club.So if you were old enough
1.Did you vote for entry?
2.Are you happy now?
3.Seeing that we new it was crap,why didnt you.?
4.Do you think its possibble to withdraw now?
5.If your happy with us in,do you agree with admiting Turkey soon?


So many problems in our industries revolve around EEC regs.at the time of the referendum on entry the LEFT campaigned vigorously against membership of this Capatilist Club.So if you were old enough

1.What is a capatilist?
2.did you mean capitalist?
3.if so you got the incorrect spelling
4. you may find this handy; http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Capatilist
5.If your happy with us in,do you agree with admiting Turkey soon?
It's approaching christmas so I'm looking forward to Turkey.

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The expected reply from the Carlisle cretin the EEC presents some significant problems for our industries,so lets ignore them EH?
The GMB with its 12 MEPs is determined to ensure any EEC legislation is sensible,assesing the support for the EEC amongst the industry is obviously inportant,such answers as from the NTA are most helpful we need to evaluate the trade orgs and decide whether to work with them OR take them out.First impression of NTA is a guvs club determined to exploit,time will tell.
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The expected reply from the Carlisle cretin the EEC presents some significant problems for our industries,so lets ignore them EH?
The GMB with its 12 MEPs is determined to ensure any EEC legislation is sensible,assesing the support for the EEC amongst the industry is obviously inportant,such answers as from the NTA are most helpful we need to evaluate the trade orgs and decide whether to work with them OR take them out.First impression of NTA is a guvs club determined to exploit,time will tell.


Gentlemen, Terry here may talk like an idiot and look like an idiot, but dont let that fool you,; he really is an idiot
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It really does strike me that you believe the EEC (or EC as it is known to the rest of us) is causing a problem now.

I presume you consider this problem to be the free movement of labour with aspersions cast upon the standard of Criminal Checks in the new EC member states from Eastern Europe.

I would like to formally welcome you to the bandwagon, better late than never I suppose, a little like the S75(1)(b) thing.

A post I did yesterday evening mentioned the TUC and Unions actively recruiting new members from Poland, possibly due to a recruitment crisis in this country. Would it be fair to say that your views regarding East Europeans will change if they decide to join the GMB?

The NTA recently adopted the following resolution;

‘That the NTA approach government in an effort to make available clear cut guidance upon the validity of oversees criminal record checks’

The problem is reasonably clear, the government have failed to make available advice, some licensing officers are faced with driving licenses from European Countries and they have no idea of what to look for or indeed what they are looking at, as the government have failed to advise them.

I know you wont like me saying this but you seem to have a problem with Carlisle, yet I would point out there has been licensing of East Europeans in this country for about 2 to 3 years, yet as soon as it's mentioned in Carlisle it becomes centre stage. I wonder why? It wouldnt be because I actually am quite good would it? :wink:

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Yopu say yuor quite good,no idea,if workers are allowed to work here obviously we the unions will organise them,firstly to prevent their exploitation and secondly to prevent the knock on effect on the resident work force the GMB and particularly my branch is growing rapidly overall union membership is growing nationwide.We are as concerned as you about the crim rec probs and probably have more power to ensure a solution.The motion looks fine,but maybe simplistic.surely more guidance along your chosen route to a solution.Carlisle no problem,scenicly beautiful,economically no idea.Insulting it and the NTA appears to be the only method of attracting you into a REAL exchange of views.As for european problems how about the WTD soon coming your way part of it holiday entitlements Workers under the direction of a company,self employed,paye all involvedsurely all sections of the industry should try to sort the probs before they are imposed on us.Have learnt that your association ran away from Brighton due to a power struggle where a multitude of your members decided they would be better off in a PROPER union instead of some two bob association albeit the T&G,sounds like a marvelous success story.
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Yopu say yuor quite good,no idea,if workers are allowed to work here obviously we the unions will organise them,firstly to prevent their exploitation and secondly to prevent the knock on effect on the resident work force the GMB and particularly my branch is growing rapidly overall union membership is growing nationwide.We are as concerned as you about the crim rec probs and probably have more power to ensure a solution.The motion looks fine,but maybe simplistic.surely more guidance along your chosen route to a solution.Carlisle no problem,scenicly beautiful,economically no idea.Insulting it and the NTA appears to be the only method of attracting you into a REAL exchange of views.As for european problems how about the WTD soon coming your way part of it holiday entitlements Workers under the direction of a company,self employed,paye all involvedsurely all sections of the industry should try to sort the probs before they are imposed on us.Have learnt that your association ran away from Brighton due to a power struggle where a multitude of your members decided they would be better off in a PROPER union instead of some two bob association albeit the T&G,sounds like a marvelous success story.


No I say I'm great, others say I'm quite good. :D

But your point regarding unions is in contridictory, the point surely is, if they are qualified they should have representation, not get representation then qualification!

I've been insulted by better, I'd rather JD said something constructive but critical, than you said moron.

If the WTD comes then so be it, surely thats to everyones advantage?

The problem with Europe is that it comes with positives and negatives, both have been mentioned already in this thread.

Ran away from Brighton? No, I still have freinds in Brighton but the association down there believe they're future lay elsewhere. Time will tell but I wish them all the best, there's nowt funnier than cab drivers you know.

As for two bob, I see more positives and ideas coming from the NTA direction (with input from others) than any direction a union can give, even here on this website the exchange of ideas has been useful even if people dont agree.

Unfortunately the image you give of your union is one that many of us has dealt with or witnessed in the past. Whereas the NTA way of the future seems, for the most part, to be working towards somekind of order and mutual respect and inclusion, as opposed to the stalinist doctrine you are espousing. On a different level it seems to be a kind of childish 'who can [edited by admin] up the wall the highest' type of game.

Unfortunately, this isnt a game, its a profession and a way of life.

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Unfortunately the image you give of your union is one that many of us has dealt with or witnessed in the past. Whereas the NTA way of the future seems, for the most part, to be working towards somekind of order and mutual respect and inclusion, as opposed to the stalinist doctrine you are espousing. On a different level it seems to be a kind of childish 'who can pi$$ up the wall the highest, type of game.

Unfortunately, this isnt a game, its a profession and a way of life.

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OK Captain all drivers limited to 48hrs a week on DUTY,who can earn a living on that?Self employed,PAYE workers under the direction,will all have significant impact on your members,how are you going to deal with it ?negotation,confrontation,your members wont want to pay hol money etc.We will insist they do surely better to negotiate.Question are any members of your org involved in E European training schools,what is its policy on recruiting from abroard?Any chance o f answer??????????
If workers are in an industry surely we must organise them?
Proprietors will ALWAYS hire the cheapest option and exploit in this industry,hence the training schools in E Europe,its called GREED.
Have it on good authority your not a bad lad,i just regret that to get you away from schnide comments and into a real discussion on the issues of our industrys you had to be provoked.
Republican Socialist yes,but stalinist NEVER.
I sincerely hope that some day our organisations can work together for the good of all.I believe that your or my opinions on the royals or the army or whatever should be ignored in the industrial arena,i know the real problem is you see our size and power a threat to small outfits and you fear another BRIGHTON

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The WTD is of great concern to me and our members ................ but not solely for the restriction to 48 hours.

Our concerns include how this directive will be enforced.

I have heard whisperings that callander controlled meters will be fitted with reciept printers, with a printout being required every day. Not only will this print out the time the meter was turned on and turned off (showing total hours "on duty") but also total distance travelled and total
of fares taken and amount charged.


I think there is a bigger picture here.

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Is the penny baginning to drop?So whats your local TA going to do about it?What reliable info do you have?Would 13MEPs come in handy??How about a full time european office in Brussels,researching for you?is the penny beginning to drop????????????????????????????????????

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As of now we have had 220 views on this thread, and I'm the only one who has answered the questions.

Was it trick or something? :?

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OK Captain all drivers limited to 48hrs a week on DUTY,who can earn a living on that?Self employed,PAYE workers under the direction,will all have significant impact on your members,how are you going to deal with it ?negotation,confrontation,your members wont want to pay hol money etc.We will insist they do surely better to negotiate.Question are any members of your org involved in E European training schools,what is its policy on recruiting from abroard?Any chance o f answer??????????
If workers are in an industry surely we must organise them?
Proprietors will ALWAYS hire the cheapest option and exploit in this industry,hence the training schools in E Europe,its called GREED.
Have it on good authority your not a bad lad,i just regret that to get you away from schnide comments and into a real discussion on the issues of our industrys you had to be provoked.
Republican Socialist yes,but stalinist NEVER.
I sincerely hope that some day our organisations can work together for the good of all.I believe that your or my opinions on the royals or the army or whatever should be ignored in the industrial arena,i know the real problem is you see our size and power a threat to small outfits and you fear another BRIGHTON


You seem oblivous to the fact that 95 % of drivers are self employed, the only way they earn more money is to increase fares. For the most part this is out of the remit of taxi drivers as they dont control fares!

You seem to be working under the illusion that a taxi proprietor doesnt drive a taxi.

I therefore take it you havent got that far in your ladybird book of hackney carriages yet?

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