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Firstly the radio system is in Sefton, and drivers are licensed in Sefton, and so are the cabs, as for the case you are discussing , it seems to me the relevant point is that the drivers engage their metres in their own areas. Which to me means that they were hired and therefore could not be plying for hire........ But what do I know :roll:

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Thats not what I asked, I asked if a sefton taxi was travelling through Liverpool and he took a radio job for a hire in Liverpool is he plying for hire by accepting that job? Captain cab is under the impression that he is.

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You started off with a company in A, then a driver in B, taking a job in C, which is different to whether or not a Sefton cab would take a booking in Liverpool via the radio, the answer as far as Sefton is that, they would take the job off the radio in Sefton and proceed to Liverpool. or if they were in Liverpool they would take the job

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I said I was surprised at the permit charge but I think the charge may eventually come down to the number of applicants they get?

I think that's the sort of money they would get off PH operators, so maybe if the Liverpool cab trade don't want to cough up, then somebody else will. :roll: :roll:

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Firstly the radio system is in Sefton, and drivers are licensed in Sefton, and so are the cabs, as for the case you are discussing , it seems to me the relevant point is that the drivers engage their metres in their own areas. Which to me means that they were hired and therefore could not be plying for hire........ But what do I know :roll:

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That's not what I asked, I asked if a Sefton taxi was travelling through Liverpool and he took a radio job for a hire in Liverpool is he plying for hire by accepting that job? Captain cab is under the impression that he is.

JD


You started off with a company in A, then a driver in B, taking a job in C, which is different to whether or not a Sefton cab would take a booking in Liverpool via the radio, the answer as far as Sefton is that, they would take the job off the radio in Sefton and proceed to Liverpool. or if they were in Liverpool they would take the job


In this thread I asked you this specific simple question, which all it needed was a simple yes or no answer but for some reason you ignored the question and went off the wall about drivers being licensed in Sefton and Taxi meters?

In respect of captain cabs assumption that we all have to be in our own licensed areas when taking a radio job can you tell me if any of your vehicles work on a radio circuit and do you tell them to always come back to Sefton if they want to be within the law, when taking a radio job?

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MrT "Firstly the radio system is in Sefton".

What was the purpose of reminding me that the radio system was in Sefton?

MrT. "and drivers are licensed in Sefton".

One would assume so

MrT. "and so are the cabs".

One would assume that also unless you have found a way around the law?

MrT. "as for the case you are discussing".

I didn't ask your opinion on the case I was discussing in another thread, I asked you a specific question in this thread.

MrT. "it seems to me the relevant point is that the drivers engage their metres in their own areas".

I'm sorry but it seems to me that the relevant point is what I specifically asked you? And I might add that I never asked your opinion on vehicles with or without meters or if they were engaged or disengaged?

MrT. "Which to me means that they were hired and therefore could not be plying for hire"

I never asked you about plying for hire or even presented a scenario about plying for hire but from this answer do I take it that you do advise drivers to come back to Sefton before they can accept a booking which starts outside of Sefton or do you advise drivers that if they are in Liverpool at the time a radio job is blown out over the air for a pickup at a Liverpool address that they can take that job?

MrT......... "But what do I know"

I refrain from the temptation of answering that question.

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I never advise drivers on how they should work, because they would not take any notice.
you went from one thread to another, I merely pointed out the difference. :wink:

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Sefton is split into two halves , one side has a Hackney radial system and two or three other private hire systems which also have Hackney's on them, But on my side of Sefton it has one hackney cab radio system which all the cabs are on, and the private hire systems are private hire only, but not so long ago there was another hackney only system, with only Sefton Hackney's on it, and their office was in Liverpool, My vehicles work on different systems,

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The hackney cab radio system that was based in Liverpool and only had Sefton hackney cabs on it, had its control centre in Edinburgh so a person in Sefton dialled a Sefton phone number which was diverted to an Edinburgh call centre which then sent the job through to the nearest cab that was light to the job, but if the driver had problems he would contact the Office in Liverpool ,hope this helps. :wink:

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In respect of captain cabs assumption that we all have to be in our own areas when taking a radio job can you tell me if any of your vehicles work on a radio circuit and do you tell them to always come back to Sefton if they wan't to be within the law, when taking a radio job?


That's not what I asked, I asked if a Sefton taxi was travelling through Liverpool and he took a radio job for a hire in Liverpool is he plying for hire by accepting that job? Captain cab is under the impression that he is.

just put this up I hope it helps... :wink:

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The airport want to issue 200 permits. earning the airport, 480,000 pounds . Seems like a lot of permits for a little airport.


Where did you get this info from, Street? And is is accurate? The reason I ask is because the press release states 6.85 per cab per day. which at 200 cabs works out at 1370 pounds per year?

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6.85 x 365 = £2,500.25

x 200 = £500,050. :shock:

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6.85 x 365 = £2,500.25

x 200 = £500,050.


Good money if you can get it.

Lets start a company, go around the country telling people we can ensure the trade is able to do the job professionally, give them say £100K for their troubles? and extort money from the trade.

So brilliant it just might work :oops:

Hasnt the council in Liverpool recently sanctioned spending thousands of pounds on barriers at Liverpool airport to protect the public? (out of licensing funds)

Didnt see this company putting its hands in its pockets then.

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I have been told that the meeting will be on Thursday between members representing Liverpool council and the people from the airport, I am also led to believe that there will only be one Liverpool trade representative present, in a spectator type of role,

I am also led to believe, that the drivers only new about the proposed fees on the Friday and were told that they would be implemented on the Monday,


I apologise for any spelling mistakes and bad grammar but seeing as I'm dyslexic I try my best, I know this leaves me open to abuse from Bigot's and poison dwarfs but what the fork.. :wink:

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The airport want to issue 200 permits. earning the airport, 480,000 pounds . Seems like a lot of permits for a little airport.


Where did you get this info from, Street? And is is accurate? The reason I ask is because the press release states 6.85 per cab per day. which at 200 cabs works out at 1370 pounds per year?

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JD


Sorry that should have read 1370 pounds per day, not per year. This does indeed work out at 500,050 per annum. I forgot to multiply the daily figure by 365, I'm grateful to Captain cab for pointing out my mistake.

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The airport want to issue 200 permits. earning the airport, 480,000 pounds . Seems like a lot of permits for a little airport.


Where did you get this info from, Street? And is is accurate? The reason I ask is because the press release states 6.85 per cab per day. which at 200 cabs works out at 1370 pounds per year?

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JD


Sorry that should have read 1370 pounds per day, not per year. This does indeed work out at 500,050 per annum. I forgot to multiply the daily figure by 365, I'm grateful to Captain cab for pointing out my mistake.

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JD


I didnt think I did JD, but thanks anyway :wink:

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Sorry that should have read 1370 pounds per day, not per year. This does indeed work out at 500,050 per annum. I forgot to multiply the daily figure by 365, I'm grateful to Captain cab for pointing out my mistake.

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JD


I didnt think I did JD, but thanks anyway :wink:

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CC


Chit its really not my day, it was Sussex who pointed out my mistake and it's him I need to thank. So thank you Sussex for bring it to my attention and correcting my mistake.

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JD wrote:
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The airport want to issue 200 permits. earning the airport, 480,000 pounds . Seems like a lot of permits for a little airport.


Where did you get this info from, Street? And is is accurate? The reason I ask is because the press release states 6.85 per cab per day. which at 200 cabs works out at 1370 pounds per year?

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JD
I got those figures off the local radio, if the spokes man was official or unofficial, I do not recall. But that figure of 200 permits is absolutely ridiculous . A little airport like Liverpool. I think like the fee it self, it will be subject to negotiation.


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