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PostPosted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 9:34 pm 
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THE 150 WAVS ARE NEEDED FOR TAXI COMPANYS TO MET THE DEMAND OF WHEELCHAIR USERS. HALCROW DID THE MYSTERY SHOPPER ROUTINE WITH ALL FOUR CAB COMPANYS IN BRIGHTON.


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brightonbreezy wrote:
THE 150 WAVS ARE NEEDED FOR TAXI COMPANYS TO MET THE DEMAND OF WHEELCHAIR USERS. HALCROW DID THE MYSTERY SHOPPER ROUTINE WITH ALL FOUR CAB COMPANYS IN BRIGHTON.


How does the mystery shopper routine work? lol

Do you say, "can you send me a wheelchair cab".....and they say, "sorry, we don't have any at the moment". lol


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 10:20 pm 
my mate says they calculate the time needed for a saloon.
then calculate the time they nbeed for a wav.
the difference then decides the number of wav needed.
clear as mud.

and this is the talk of the ranks.
most are sure the council will dereg.
me i dont thing they will.
but i not putting into there fighting fund.
the only time they talk to me is to ask for money. :sad:


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brightonbreezy wrote:
Not sure how it works but thats what it said. more info at this link:

http://www.brighton-hove.gov.uk/index.c ... %2015%3A00

hope it works


By the look of these reports I think Brighton is going to get a lot more than the five WAV cabs it currently licenses each year.

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The following is food for thought?
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The key issues that emerged were:
 The number of wheelchair accessible vehicles required to ensure improvement to the service for wheelchair users;
 Deregulation for wheelchair accessible taxis;
 The cost of adapting a vehicle for wheelchair use;
 The lack of pecuniary incentive in responding to a short wheelchair call in relation to a potentially non wheelchair longer call, particularly when in the taxi rank;
 A subsidy to taxi drivers for answering wheelchair calls;
 The apparent impossibility of insisting that taxi drivers respond to calls from wheelchair users;
 The potential damage to health of taxi drivers when handling wheelchairs single-handed.

3.2 After much consideration and the realisation that there was no perfect solution, the Action Group agreed to put forward the following recommendations:

a) Wheelchair accessibility to be a condition of issuing new licences;
b) Transfer of licences to be conditional on adapting the vehicle for wheelchair users;
c) Installation of pagers for all taxis including those not on the circuit so they could also be called upon to respond to wheelchair users;
d) A number of licences should be issued for vehicles with wheelchair access in order to substantially lower the time wheelchair users have to wait for a taxi;
e) Taxi companies should consider following the example of one company and employ 1-2 drivers specifically for wheelchair work for that company vehicle;
f) Training in the handling of disabled users, including those using wheelchair to be made available free of charge to taxi drivers. All new drivers should receive wheelchair loading and unloading training before a new drivers licence is issued.


3.3 It was further recommended that:

a) The number of Community Link Vehicles should be increased and wider publicity given to the service
b) The Council should consider options available for supporting a subsidised transport service for wheelchair users. Consideration should be given to allowing the taxi trade to tender for some of the type of work undertaken by Community Transport.
c) The Council should establish a formal complaints procedure for customers to complain of dissatisfaction with wheelchair accessible taxi services.

Some of the recommendations were accepted by the Licensing & Policy & Resources Committees as being feasible.
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Cgull wrote:
my mate says they calculate the time needed for a saloon.
then calculate the time they nbeed for a wav.
the difference then decides the number of wav needed.
clear as mud.

and this is the talk of the ranks.
most are sure the council will dereg.
me i dont thing they will.
but i not putting into there fighting fund.
the only time they talk to me is to ask for money. :sad:


lol nice one Cgull. I don't think they will dereg either. More cabs yes but dereg no. Good job I have my name down lol

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Another good thing that has come out of this is the number of PH drivers who have joined the GMB in Brighton. Well done Uncle Terry, see u Thursday at the meeting.


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There are no laws that can force private hire to have wheelchair accessible vehicles, but may be it s a line that should now be strongly presented to the Ministry for Transport backed by all national associations, the disabled after all should be able to phone the local private hire and be provided with vehicles suitable to their needs :wink:

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brightonbreezy wrote:
Another good thing that has come out of this is the number of PH drivers who have joined the GMB in Brighton. Well done Uncle Terry, see u Thursday at the meeting.



Thousands join and thousands leave seen it all before ... But good luck eusasmiles.zip

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There are no laws that can force private hire to have wheelchair accessible vehicles, but may be it s a line that should now be strongly presented to the Ministry for Transport backed by all national associations, the disabled after all should be able to phone the local private hire and be provided with vehicles suitable to their needs :wink:


Well considering that this would have been considered at DDA time (and of course the DDA) specifically didn't include PH, that the DDA has been in force for 10 years and full implementation of the taxi provisions is still at least 14 years away, and that the old 'choice of vehicles' argument would prevail, then I think your idea is a non-starter.

And even if I'm wrong, I suspect both of us will have left the trade well before it happens, or perhaps even dead. :cry:

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MR T wrote:
There are no laws that can force private hire to have wheelchair accessible vehicles, but may be it s a line that should now be strongly presented to the Ministry for Transport backed by all national associations, the disabled after all should be able to phone the local private hire and be provided with vehicles suitable to their needs :wink:


By the way, since of course the NTA believes in local decisions by local people based on local needs, that would rule them out.

And I can't see the NPHA being interested somehow.

So by 'national associations' you must mean the GMB and T&G :lol:

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TDO wrote:
MR T wrote:
There are no laws that can force private hire to have wheelchair accessible vehicles, but may be it s a line that should now be strongly presented to the Ministry for Transport backed by all national associations, the disabled after all should be able to phone the local private hire and be provided with vehicles suitable to their needs :wink:


Well considering that this would have been considered at DDA time (and of course the DDA) specifically didn't include PH, that the DDA has been in force for 10 years and full implementation of the taxi provisions is still at least 14 years away, and that the old 'choice of vehicles' argument would prevail, then I think your idea is a non-starter.

And even if I'm wrong, I suspect both of us will have left the trade well before it happens, or perhaps even dead. :cry:


But I am led to believe, that yesterday the subject was brought up

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TDO wrote:
MR T wrote:
There are no laws that can force private hire to have wheelchair accessible vehicles, but may be it s a line that should now be strongly presented to the Ministry for Transport backed by all national associations, the disabled after all should be able to phone the local private hire and be provided with vehicles suitable to their needs :wink:


By the way, since of course the NTA believes in local decisions by local people based on local needs, that would rule them out.

And I can't see the NPHA being interested somehow.

So by 'national associations' you must mean the GMB and T&G :lol:



You missed two very important associations out.. who have a great deal of input ?

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MR T wrote:
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MR T wrote:
There are no laws that can force private hire to have wheelchair accessible vehicles, but may be it s a line that should now be strongly presented to the Ministry for Transport backed by all national associations, the disabled after all should be able to phone the local private hire and be provided with vehicles suitable to their needs :wink:


Well considering that this would have been considered at DDA time (and of course the DDA) specifically didn't include PH, that the DDA has been in force for 10 years and full implementation of the taxi provisions is still at least 14 years away, and that the old 'choice of vehicles' argument would prevail, then I think your idea is a non-starter.

And even if I'm wrong, I suspect both of us will have left the trade well before it happens, or perhaps even dead. :cry:


But I am led to believe, that yesterday the subject was brought up


Any advance on that, or do you mean over a pint in the Dog's Bollocks in Ellsmere Port? :?

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MR T wrote:
You missed two very important associations out.. who have a great deal of input ?


Oh come on, you're just teasing me tonight :evil:

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