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brightonbreezy
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Driver attitude, and lack of wavs at certain times. We (GMB Prof drivers Brighton) are not a one trick pony, as I said we did not support delimatation, we did support more licences to help with wheelchair access for disabled people. We are working on many areas of supporting disabled people, one company takes wav bookings, supported by GMB PH WAV drivers. One interesting issue that came out of our recent licencing committee meeting was the fact that one stipulation of the issue of the 20 new wav plates is they must be on a taxi circuit. Does anyone know of any LA doing this before?
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So it seems that the real problem, and the cause of this lady's problem is driver attitude and not available vehicles.

Experience tells me that drivers who get a HC WAV, in the main, DO NOT get one to do wheelchair work but to work the ranks on a Friday and Saturday night.
I think the council are right to look at "punishing" drivers of WAV's who refuse to do wheelchair work, and possibly include the office within the same punishment.

Another problem, of which I have experience, is the idea that obtaining a school run will encourage more WAV purchases ...................... it does ........... but up here we found that the greatest demand for WAV's was during the times the WAV's were involved with their school runs.
The other thing is term of contract, if you commit to undertaking a run for a certain amount of money you are expected to complete that contract at that price.
We have a new framework for the provision of transport, with the term of contract being 3 years (with a possible 1 year extension). Within that we have to show the percentage of cost relating to fuel, this is so that if the fuel rises or falls by more than 5% for 2 consecutive months the charges made can be adjusted to cover the increased cost.

With regard Brighton, I don't think an extra 150 HC will do anything but increase driver hardship .......................... we have over 250 HC WAV's in our small town and the disabled community are still struggling at certain times to get a vehicle which services their requirements.

WE are addressing this problem through a review of our policies, which should be implemented very early in the new year.

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Lincoln is 100% wav for hackney, and I'm glad I don't rely on wheelchair work for a living. Three jobs this year, one booked for December, so that'll be about £200 income from WAV work in 2006. That reminds me must oil the hinges on my (£300) ramp before they sieze up from lack of use.

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GA, what new policies are these, I would be interested to hear about them. Cheers BB
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Forgot to mention I've been hired to work a mainline East coast station on Xmas Eve, because no WAV's are available there. So that's my ramp paid for!

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brightonbreezy wrote:
Driver attitude, and lack of wavs at certain times. We (GMB Prof drivers Brighton) are not a one trick pony, as I said we did not support delimatation, we did support more licences to help with wheelchair access for disabled people. We are working on many areas of supporting disabled people, one company takes wav bookings, supported by GMB PH WAV drivers. One interesting issue that came out of our recent licencing committee meeting was the fact that one stipulation of the issue of the 20 new wav plates is they must be on a taxi circuit. Does anyone know of any LA doing this before?


No, and I don't think they could either.

IF the DDA included PH, then a proportion of PH vehicles could be made to be WAV's, but as PH is NOT included through the DDA its tough.

What you could do is allow the use of certain types or models of WAV's as PH but not allow that particular type or model as HC.

Greater incentives could also be used, cheaper fee's for example .............. because currently the thing they currently use to attract drivers (a free HC plate) is not attracting the right people to deliver the services required.

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It is obvious that at times a person in a wheelchair will not be able to get a taxi, or will have to wait, exactly the same as any body else, it is called being equal. :oops:

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No, wheelchair users are not equal in Brighton when it comes to getting a taxi. There are 400 saloon cars and 100 WAVS. Simple maths. Not excluding the 50% who hide and wont do a wheelchair job. Thats why we are trying to do some thing about it. With that attitude its no wonder so many areas have been delimited to WAVs.
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MR T
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all my cabs are WCV and out of 271 Hackney's we have 210 wheelchair accessible vehicles, but saying that some have never loaded a wheelchair in 15 years, and as for my attitudes it simple, there are times when I want a taxi and cannot get one, equal means equal.

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You are perfectly correct when you say it's no wonder some areas have been de-regulated toWAVs, and that is simply because people with saloon vehicles do not want the expense of changing toWAV. but seeing as I have been operatingWAVs for over 10 years I do not think you can include me, I'm sure you'll catch up eventually.... :wink:

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Mr T, In our area only one company will take a booking for a wav user, as long as they are given 24 hrs notice. All companys take bookings for saloon cars. Forget the HC/PH argument. Is that equal?
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Question number one . In total how many private hire and Hackney's are there, and out of them how many wheelchair accessible vehicles are there,??
Question Number Two. I notice you're called the professional drivers branch, can you post a copy of the risk assessment regarding loading and unloading wheelchair-bound passengers, that you will have issued to all members..... :wink:

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Question 1. Its been on another thread, from memory as I dont have figures to hand 400 saloon HC, 83 WAV HC. 400 sal PH 23 WAV PH.

Question 2. Funny enough I spoke to our LO about responsibility for H&S for WAV drivers the other day. Apparently It belongs to the companys or the employers that the drivers work for or themselves.

Incidently I am not the professional drivers branch, I belong to it. If any of our members want help I would try and give it, if I was unable I would refer them to some one who could.
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Does anyone know of any LA doing this before?

No, because it's illegal and wont stand up in court should your council try to defend it. [-X

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 8:51 pm 
part of the problem is wav plates being sold to independants.
they dont want to hump wheelchairs.
especially if theyhave paid 50 grand for the plate.
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Question 2. Funny enough I spoke to our LO about responsibility for H&S for WAV drivers the other day. Apparently It belongs to the companys or the employers that the drivers work for or themselves

Interesting that he should say that. so when a driver refuses to load a person in a wheelchair that he considers will put him at risk, and then that person reports him for refusing where does that leave the driver, and what action would the LA take. :wink:

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