Taxi Driver Online

I think there is a problem with the current situation that permits people to operate radio circuits without a permit (sorry couldn't help myself).

I don't think individual drivers should be affected by any changes and if that were the case I don't think it would get past initial dialogue with other stakeholders.

As MrT has already alluded to, the whole idea is for not contentious changes not wholesale, and its about dialogue. Taking ideas to the table and seeing if their acceptable. In this respect the NTA is to consult its members, of which I am a mere one.

regards

CC

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George Carlin

You made my point for me.


You also make my point in suggesting these matters take careful consideration. This is exactly where I'm going with Captain Cab. I know what he wants to achieve but its the getting there that I don't think he's fully taken account of?

I don't agree with the changes he proposes simply because of the effect it will have on the way we do business. It could also scupper the innovative move of regional call centres which "could" have the effect of reducing driver radio rents substantially.

In my opinion, the change captain cab wants would do more harm than good to the hackney carriage trade. The irony of all this is that hackney carriage only radio circuits are few and far between because most circuits these days incorporate both codes.

In most cases if not all, hackney carriage radio circuits already keep job records, so we have to ask ourselves under those circumstances why the need for this resolution?

Regards

JD

I will give you a story about something that happened recently in one area where it is completely delimited.

There are effectively 4 radio circuits 2 of whom have mixed fleets of PH & HC, the other 2 are purely HC.

Obviously the mixed fleets must have PH operators licenses, whereas the HC circuits don't.

A complaint was received by the LA, all circuits were contacted, yet only 2 had to provide information regarding the complaint.

Another example is one of service.

If a radio circuit offers a service to the public then the service has to be non discriminatory, if a LA receives a complaint about a HC circuit how can the LA check the complaint?

regards

CC

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George Carlin

Don't you mean if the council recieves a complaint against a hackney carriage driver, dispatched by the Radio circuit?

If that is what you mean then the complaint is agaisnt the "hackney carriage driver" and not the radio circuit.

Under the circumstances what is the procedure for complaints against any hackney carriage driver whether it is booked from a circuit of hailed in the street? There is no difference whatsoever, the passenger can either take the drivers badge number or vehicle plate number and report the complaint to the council.

I suppsoe the next logical step is to carry the debate on to lost property? lol

Regards

JD

Not really JD the one of the complaints was about people being refused vehicles, the drivers weren't involved inone complaint and simply refusd to pick a passenger upin the other.

regards

CC

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George Carlin

If that be the case then there is nothing the council can do with or without the inclusion of amendments because they have no say whatsoever in how a private hire operator operates his service. An operator is not obliged by law to send a vehicle to anyone not withstanding the fact that they can't discriminate against the disabled. What could your amended legislation do for people who are refused vehicles?

Regards

JD

I think you might be mistaken, under PH Op rules the LA can check records cant they?

CC

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George Carlin

I would have thought you'd have been all in favour of stopping those Trafford Hackney Carriages from operating as Private Hire in Manchester ?

I wonder what you would say if you saw a trafford cab picking up and when you pulled your window down and shouted 'taxi driver online' they replied Gladen Judgement

regards

CC

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George Carlin

They can check records of recorded jobs but they can't do anything about people not being sent a cab? Which was the complaint you made. Under those circumstances how would your amendment help those people who are refused a cab?

I can think of cases where such records would be useful and that is in the case of Murder, Rape and other crimes against the person.

Regards

JD

Murder and rape would be handy too I suppose

I didnt explain the instance very well, so I apologise.

There have been rumours abound that wheelchair bound passengers when phoning for cabs have been told that none are available.

With no requirement to keep records this could obviously go on forever, if records were checked the LA could inspect records to see what vehicles were doing jobs at a particular time.

Although, the rape and murder scenario is obviously a tad more important.

I would additionally state that anyone unlicensed (without a HC license) can operate a HC circuit, if this is the case then shouldnt people be worried about a criminal element?

regards

CC

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George Carlin

There is so much that needs changing that you can be forgiven for not be more diaphanous on those changes that are obviously needed. However it was you who posed the question so I thought you might have had something more substantial and specific in mind

The Question was posed for the purpose of seeing if there was anything the members of this forum thought was urgent; the one thing that I would like to see changed would be both sides of the trade working together.

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Justice for the 96. It has only taken 27 years...........repeat the same lies for 27 years and the truth sounds strange to people!

Not so much tinkering but a suggestion, a nationally recognised formula for working out cab fares?

CC

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Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
George Carlin

Rumours? Which authority, Carlisle?

Regards

JD

Is MrT seeing the light? surely many of your practices would need modyfying??????????????????

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The views expressed by this contributor do not neccesarily reflect the policys of The GMB Nationally or of the GMB London Region.

Mr T. has never been in the dark Terry and after 30 Years of being involved with private hire and Hackney's, can soon spot the new boy on a block...

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Justice for the 96. It has only taken 27 years...........repeat the same lies for 27 years and the truth sounds strange to people!