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PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 4:42 pm 
just spoken to two T.G.W.U reps from elsewhere and was told that any member that is in the Liverpool T&G should contact their union officials who are duty bound to tell them what is going on so one of them should
phone Tommy and ask him whats going on asap and post it back on here.


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it would be nice to know what the facts are for T&G pulling out of the action....!!

or as the action been put back a few days...?

someone must know, especially the local members whats going on
or as usual are the funders of the union been treated like mushrooms
fed on [edited by admin] and kept in the dark....!!


Well I appear to be aware of the facts of the situation, and they seem to be in contradiction to what streetcars has stated, except for the fact the action is off on the chosen day.

I suppose streetcars will make an apology if he is wrong about the union?

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Is it not a fact, the action has been put off, untill the new year .To allow more talks , in other words union are climbing down. What have you been told.? regards streetcars


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looks like their gonna start charging passengers at the airport for security costs now too.

http://www.bnp.org.uk/reg_showarticle.p ... entID=1641

First time we have had a BNP link on TDO. :sad:

Let's hope it's the last. :sad:

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Is there anything worse than someone coming on here saying they know what's what, and then don't tell anyone? [-(

So I will guess that the T&G have, yet again, led drivers to the top of the hill and left them there.

Until they come back from their Xmas rest. :roll:

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Sussex wrote:
Is there anything worse than someone coming on here saying they know what's what, and then don't tell anyone? [-(

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Yes come on Captain spit it out ! :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:


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streetcars wrote:
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Is there anything worse than someone coming on here saying they know what's what, and then don't tell anyone? [-(

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Yes come on Captain spit it out !


I wouldn't hold you breath, we're still waiting to hear who the mythical taxi company in Manchester is that allowed Trafford Cabs on their radio system?

Apparently it's classified information and shall not be divulged under any circumstances.


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JD wrote:
streetcars wrote:
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Is there anything worse than someone coming on here saying they know what's what, and then don't tell anyone? [-(

:roll:
Yes come on Captain spit it out !


I wouldn't hold you breath, we're still waiting to hear who the mythical taxi company in Manchester is that allowed Trafford Cabs on their radio system?

Apparently it's classified information and shall not be divulged under any circumstances.


Regards

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Threat of action by T&GW Union Hackney drivers at JLA lifted
14 Dec 2006


Joint Press Release

Threat of action by T&GW Union Hackney drivers at JLA lifted

Following negotiations between the T&G and LJLA, the threat of action at Liverpool John Lennon Airport on Friday 15th December 2006 has been lifted.

It has been decided by all parties concerned that the best way forward is to abandon the proposed permit system and arrange further talks in the near future on the implementation of a chargeable barrier system, due to be in place by 19th February 2007.

There will also be a full range of discussions between LJLA and the T&GWU as to how the current service provided by the Hackney Taxis can be improved for the benefit of user and driver alike.

A series of meetings have been arranged for the New Year for these negotiations to be concluded.

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So Taxis are still going to be charged for useing the airport , A barrier system is still a climb down . How ever you spin it . regards streetcars


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The T&G has a long-standing policy of free and open taxi ranks at all airports, railway stations, public places and shopping centres as part of an integrated transport system. Mr. James said the union would be pressing for that at John Lennon Airport and he rejected the company's assertion that paying an extra £2,500 just for permission to work would "have considerable benefits for both taxi operators and passengers alike." :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: Looks like the T& G has for got, its long standing policy of free and open taxi ranks . I was not a fan of this particular , action but. Would have suported it 100%. At least the charge can be passed more tranparently on to the punter. Dont think this is a victory for the T& G it aint ,its a defeat .streetcars. :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:


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The T&G will do what its members dictate,if theres a legal threat what is it?

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GMB Branch secretary wrote:
The T&G will do what its members dictate,if theres a legal threat what is it?
The T& G will do what members dictate really .I don’t think there was a legal threat, that was just a possible, explanation for the rapid, embarrassing climb down .But then again the T&G only seem to be interested, in Midland car workers . When was the meeting to discuss the new proposals ? when was the vote to stop the action ?How come no one new the action had been stopped? . Democratic union my arse . regards streetcars


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Let's take a minute and look back over what has happened, first a company called PTS appears out of nowhere and tells the Liverpool hackney trade that they will be paying £2,600 year, for the privilege of a permit.

Second, they also state that the Liverpool trade would have to retrain to their specifications, non negotiable,

Third, This company is called into a meeting between the council and themselves and it is made quite clear to them that the council are in charge of the hackney trade and that they WILL negotiate with the trade, to which they agreed.

4th, They attend a meeting with the T&G and told them that they must agree to their conditions otherwise a private hire company will be working the airport from the 1st January .

5th The T &G make it quite clear that they feel they cannot work with this firm and ask for a meeting with the airport manager representing Peel Holdings. no response

The T & G then call for a day of action giving plenty of time for a response,

Today, A meeting took place between the T&G, and the airport manager.PTS have now taken a back seat. nobody has ever said that they would not negotiate, what they have said is that they will not be dictated to,

It is my understanding that the permit system has been thrown out the window, and that a system which will allow All Liverpool Hackney's access to the airport is on the table, it would seem to me that they have achieved exactly what they intended.... 8)

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So conflicting reports.questions
1What was the possible legal action
2Who is the PHV company being used as a threat
3Surely any NEW agreement will be put to ballot of the membership

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Council are In charge of the hackney trade?


Do you mean the council issue licenses?

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I think the barrier system is a good one. As long as the money comes in, I don't think the airport give a dam how it does.

I also think the airport trying to improve service standards is a good one. :wink:

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GMB Branch secretary wrote:
So conflicting reports.questions
1What was the possible legal action.... rumour
2Who is the PHV company being used as a threat....no particular company was ever mentioned
3Surely any NEW agreement will be put to ballot of the membership...obviously

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