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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 6:06 pm 
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Where do you start? :sad:

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From what I can gather there are a number of cross border issues, the surrounding areas seem to have standards in place, where this place doesn't, as the report states, it results in drivers who cant pass tests in one area, working in the other.

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"At the moment South Ribble gets a lot of drivers coming here if they've been rejected in Preston or Blackburn."

And the mush wants to keep standards low. ](*,)

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Licensing chiefs are considering the options of running the course in conjunction with Runshaw College or the Driving Standards Agency.


At least the LOs give a f*** about the quality of drivers. =D> =D>

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But the LO can only run courses for drivers licensing in his own area of responsibility.

If a person then aquires a HC plate from a neighbouring authority he can return to the area he could not pass the test and work under a PH contract.

This, I believe, is wrong to the point of being illegal.

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The GMB could very likely organise the course at no cost to its members.
We hope to do this in London the proprietors will love it ,great recruiting tool, and of course quality control, should please Rambo read and WRITE English!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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captain cab wrote:
From what I can gather there are a number of cross border issues, the surrounding areas seem to have standards in place, where this place doesn't, as the report states, it results in drivers who cant pass tests in one area, working in the other.


Well isn't this system of "council know best" exactly what you, the NTA and the T&GWU advocate? I think we are all getting a little confused at the way you change positions from one side to another? Either you believe in the doctrine that councils know best or you don't?

Many, if not the majority of Taxi drivers are getting a little weary of listening to the likes of those I mentioned above telling us that councillors are best placed to decide what's best for their area. And when their decisions don't sit well with the likes of yourself the NTA and the T&G you take an opposing view to the one you advocate. I am forever reminding people that a little consistency wouldn't go amiss but when you nail your colours to the "councils know best mast" then it leaves you little room for manoeuvre.

Has it ever occurred to you that opinions from those organisations I mentioned above might be perceived as having some legitimacy by the majority of the Taxi trade, if they were consistent in what they said?

The only way you are going to get uniformity of standards is by way of a "New National Cab" act. Something which you and the NTA are totally against.

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JD wrote:
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From what I can gather there are a number of cross border issues, the surrounding areas seem to have standards in place, where this place doesn't, as the report states, it results in drivers who cant pass tests in one area, working in the other.


Well isn't this system of "council know best" exactly what you, the NTA and the T&GWU advocate? I think we are all getting a little confused at the way you change positions from one side to another? Either you believe in the doctrine that councils know best or you don't?

Many, if not the majority of Taxi drivers are getting a little weary of listening to the likes of those I mentioned above telling us that councillors are best placed to decide what's best for their area. And when their decisions don't sit well with the likes of yourself the NTA and the T&G you take an opposing view to the one you advocate. I am forever reminding people that a little consistency wouldn't go amiss but when you nail your colours to the "councils know best mast" then it leaves you little room for manoeuvre.

Has it ever occurred to you that opinions from those organisations I mentioned above might be perceived as having some legitimacy by the majority of the Taxi trade, if they were consistent in what they said?

The only way you are going to get uniformity of standards is by way of a "New National Cab" act. Something which you and the NTA are totally against.

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JD What are you on about?

It seems to me that the Local Authority here are making a stand about standards, if they bring their standards into line with their surrounding areas, with dialogue with the local trade, then this needs supported.

Vehicles from South ribble are operating in other areas, as Sussex points out via the report, its because the standards in South Ribble are lax compared to elsewhere.

Its the same as vehicles and drivers from Eden (Penrith) & Berwick operating 70 miles away in Newcastle.

I cant for the life of me see why you see fit to mention the NTA (or T&G) policies, which is locals are best placed to decide and retention of the status quo, because it appears in South Ribble, locals are making decisions.

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JD What are you on about?

It seems to me that the Local Authority here are making a stand about standards, if they bring their standards into line with their surrounding areas, with dialogue with the local trade, then this needs supported.

Vehicles from South ribble are operating in other areas, as Sussex points out via the report, its because the standards in South Ribble are lax compared to elsewhere.

Its the same as vehicles and drivers from Eden (Penrith) & Berwick operating 70 miles away in Newcastle.

I cant for the life of me see why you see fit to mention the NTA (or T&G) policies, which is locals are best placed to decide and retention of the status quo, because it appears in South Ribble, locals are making decisions.

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I'm on about the level of standards between one area and another and the assumption that councils know best. If standards are in question then those who advocate the theory that councils know best can't really complain at councils who administer their own particular brand of standards.

The only way around that is for standards to be uniformal, which again you and the T&G and the NTA are opposed. Not so long ago you were critical about imposing high standards yet it would seem you have recently had a change of heart. Perhaps you are becoming a convert to high standards of quality controls? My point however is centered on the soundbyte that "Councils know best" so under that premise this council is applying standards as it sees fit, therefore you can't really criticise its policy before or after the event because in your opinion and that of the NTA and T&G councils always know what is best for their area?

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JD wrote:
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JD What are you on about?

It seems to me that the Local Authority here are making a stand about standards, if they bring their standards into line with their surrounding areas, with dialogue with the local trade, then this needs supported.

Vehicles from South ribble are operating in other areas, as Sussex points out via the report, its because the standards in South Ribble are lax compared to elsewhere.

Its the same as vehicles and drivers from Eden (Penrith) & Berwick operating 70 miles away in Newcastle.

I cant for the life of me see why you see fit to mention the NTA (or T&G) policies, which is locals are best placed to decide and retention of the status quo, because it appears in South Ribble, locals are making decisions.

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I'm on about the level of standards between one area and another and the assumption that councils know best. If standards are in question then those who advocate the theory that councils know best can't really complain at councils who administer their own particular brand of standards.

The only way around that is for standards to be uniformal, which again you and the T&G and the NTA are opposed. Not so long ago you were critical about imposing high standards yet it would seem you have recently had a change of heart. Perhaps you are becoming a convert to high standards of quality controls? My point however is centered on the soundbyte that "Councils know best" so under that premise this council is applying standards as it sees fit, therefore you can't really criticise its policy before or after the event because in your opinion and that of the NTA and T&G councils always know what is best for their area?

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Who was complaining? I was actually supporting what South Ribble are proposing, provided there is dialogue.

Which standards was I critical to?

It isnt Councils know best, its locals are best placed to decide. For example, in terms of vehicles Manchester see's the COF as their standard, whereas a rural local authority may see the COF as unneccessary.

I can see fit to criticise anything I wish, I believe it is a right? Just because I believe locals are best placed to decide, doesnt give that local authority the right not to look at the issues nor does it give them carte blanche` to ride roughshod over the livlihoods they affect.

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JD i dont say councils know best im saying under the present situation you should seek to INFLUENCE them Unions do this in many ways as you know.Ive invited you to present to us a new system, and the facility to possiblypresent it directly into the TOP echelon. We await your ideas on another thread you will see me advising on courses of action re councils and the forthcoming elections. Ignore these elections at your peril!
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we all know the GMBS STANCE write to them in there own lauguage :mrgreen:


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RICH4 wrote:
we all know the GMBS STANCE write to them in there own lauguage :mrgreen:

Just for the record have you any views about this trade other than the inns and outs of the GMB? :?

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no mate not at the moment


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no mate not at the moment

Well best you f*** off then.

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