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Slapheid of course CAN talk at great length because of his breadth of experience as both a man of violence and a convicted criminal - both completely without remorse or any thought for HIS victim

Yet he still can't see why most people despise him

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What your forgetting GA is that you, as a private hire, would be part of the level playing field.

I don't want to do you down. I want both of us to be equals.

You make your wedge. I make mine. As equals.

Your problem?

The Skull has asked me to respond that he does not have enough time in his entire life to respond to your post.

What does your psychiatrist say about this?

BTW Victims are not found. They're made.

Nature has decided what can't defend itself shall not be defended.

Says the Skull, of course.

Cos I'm really different.

Though, this time, he's spot on.

Think, plink. You know it makes sense.

What your guessing is that I drive HC.

What your requesting will only benefit you.

I don't consider anyone in our profession to be of different stature, the way we obtain our work is the only real difference in what we do, BUT that difference needs to remain to best serve the public which should be our priority.

You have the same opportunities as anyone else to drive whichever vehicle type you want ...................... and that is why the current situation is very much a level playing field. If you made the wrong decision then no-one but yourself should be blamed.

B. Lucky

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TF pi$$ed on his chips.

I have a slight observation here, I think you may have ommitted the fact that unlike Gateshead, Edinburgh has a restriction on hackney carriage licenses, therefore it would be ungenerous of you not to realise that fact. The level playing field in Edinburgh is not based on the same level playing field as in those areas that do not restrict numbers, which of course for the time being includes Gateshead.

Regards

JD

I would point out that at the moment Gateshead has a temporary restriction on the number of Hackney Carriage Vehicle Licenses.

What I would also point out is that a level playing field would suggest the same opportunities for everyone ...................... and you must admit that the choices for everyone wanting to enter the Hackney Carriage trade is, and has been for some time, the same.

What Jasbar wants is the rules changed to suit him, now that cannot be construed as a level playing field, but a playing field that's laid out for him.

I doubt Jasbar has ever been refused the same rights of entry than anyone else since he has wanted a Hackney Carriage Licence.

There needs to be some acceptance that the world does not owe people a living, and people cannot just get things because they want them or because someone else has one.

Everyone who has got a plate since Jasbar decided to come into the trade, has I would imagine, made the choice to pay for one rather than work private hire, which is long term more expensive than buying a plate.

So he made a choice, which he has decided was the wrong one, so why should all the people who (at the same time) made the choice to buy a plate suffer a financial loss because he decided to go PH.

Giving Jasbar what he wants, for free, takes away from someone else who made a different decision ...................... and there is no way that can be considered fair.

B. Lucky

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Skull on TDO

TF pi$$ed on his chips.

Sorry, but I'm at a loss here.

Why should I have to pay £50,000 to buy a licence which the council tells me, and the legislation, that I can't buy in the first place? No one should be able to buy a licence.

Why should I have to be as stupid as those who pay this sum of money, when the council could de-restrict for any reason they choose, whenever they choose anyway?

Why should I have to pay £50,000 for a taxi licence when NO other licence type is "traded" in the same way? What is so special about taxi licences?

What is truly unfair is that cabbies here are being denied the tools of their trade, based on an artificial restriction by the council, in the interests of a favoured few (most of whom got their licences for "free") and which forces rentals up to £350 per week and which results in unnecessarily high tariffs which provide a disincentive for more of the public to use the service.

Now GA, in case you didn't catch me saying this before, let me say it quite clearly so that you understand it now.

Even if someone paid £50,000 yesterday, and the trade was de-restricted today I would have one iota of sympathy for them. The debate has been raginging long enough for anyone to know the risk they run. Anyone who has done a SWOT analysis prior to spending the money would have worked out for themselves what the weakness and threats were. It's not rocket science. They would only be sowing what they reaped.

And, can you imagine what a Sheriff would say if they took their complaint to court?

"I bought the licence in good faith Sheriff, and that nasty old council de-restrictedand caused me to lose my wedge. Please order them to re-restrict or give me back my money"

"Sorry, but the Act clearly says plates are non-transferable. Cheerio."

Sorry, that should read, "I would NOT have one iota of sympathy for them."

I await with anticipation your definition of choice. The only choice that really matters is whether you can or can't obtain freely, a hackney carriage proprietors license, is it not?

No doubt you will separate the definition of choice in restricted and unrestricted areas and why a minority of areas remain restricted?



You have said that on previous occasions but you fail to comprehend that the statement only applies to the 28% of licensing areas that are restricted and what's more your statement is more applicable to those persons who have to rely on a council to restrict others from entering the Taxi trade.

It proves beyond all reasonable doubt that those persons who desire the retention of quantity controls such as yourself believe that the world does owe them a living or at least the council owes them a living. As it stands these people are chit scared of competition and the only mechanism they can grasp is a councils policy of restriction. They haven't got a clue about quality controls and neither did you until you finally realised it was the only way forward.

Regards

JD

The rub is that the council holds cabbies' hands behind their backs while taking their work away from them.

Would it have made any difference to the council's bus plans if there had been a de-restricted taxi trade in Edinburgh?

Would they have invested £300,000 in their taxibus service to compete directly with taxis?

Would they be extending the night bus service if there was a ready supply of fairly priced taxis to compete against and there was no grant coming from government?

Isn't it reprehensible that the council can restrict our activities because its promoting its own? This has to be a shocker does it not?

Or, if this was such a good way to conduct affairs, why does it not happen anywhere else in our "free market" economy?

Bang on!

The laugh is, all these so called "Taxi Businessmen Owners" haven't even noticed. It seems taxis operate in isolation to other transport groups. This must mean people who use trains, plains, rickshaws and taxi-buses don't use taxis.

No point in giving a driver his own plate, with his own single shifted (£190 a week) E7 doubling as his private car?

I've got a better idea, just put up the rental, that will solve the problem in the short term, well at least until there's very little work left to compete for.

And this lot think the council is acting in their best interests. Christ, whatever drugs they are on I want some.

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Aye, it appears that the inmates in the asylum are so stupified with the drug of council control that they no longer have the wit to even ask the questions. Whci is precisely why our council is taking the hit and miss. They do, because they can.

But hiking rentals and plate "values" is the only solution greedy owners see. And allowing plates to be hiked will make them £125,000 in 5 years time. How will those who can't afford to buy in now be any more able to buy in then?

Now, I'm about to go out to work. It will cost me £40 for the shift. Yet, I know that it is going to be quiet. I'll be lucky to make any money for myself. But I still have to work to fund the rental.

Had I my own taxi, the tool of the trade, I'd probably stay home and work extra at the weekends, which is precisely when the public want me to.

So the status quo means more taxis when its quiet and less taxis when its busy. How does this make sense? And how was it sensible for Jacob's to survey the Morningside rank and feature it as a principal example of how there was no significant demand? All it showed was a lack of demand at the Morningside rank. This is the pile of hit and miss that the council used to deny 41 applications, and would use to deny me mine? And this is what Cllr Wigglesworth said was flawed and yet he still alowed the 41 denials? And still de did nothing when he became the head honch on the RC to put right?

I vouch it doesn't matter what demand information the council thinks it has to deny my licence. Jacob's is the foundation, the starting point. And Jacob's is a pile of merde. You can't build atop a pile of merde.

I don't know about anyone else, but to me it would seem that your council is not prepared to open the doors of the asylum and allow the inmates to rule, it would also seem that judging by the time you have spent in this trade you should now be running a profitable business. I can only conclude bearing in mind (that licences have been issued) you are simply not up to the job.

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Justice for the 96. It has only taken 27 years...........repeat the same lies for 27 years and the truth sounds strange to people!

Here we have people so stupid it defies any logic they put forward as argument.

Perhaps one of you silly jocks could explain to me why plates are being sold for £50,000?

Lets make it multiple choice, to make it easier -

A - because people are willing to pay it.
B - to stop really thick PH drivers from becoming HC drivers.
C - because if they don't the owner would blow their kneecaps off.

Who therefore controls the price?

A - the buyer
B - the seller
C - the local ice-cream man.

If it were decided that no-one would buy or rent plates what would happen to plate prices?

A - they would double.
B - they would stay the same.
C - they would go down.

Do the council know that plates are changing hands for £50,000

A - Who's the council.
B - Yes.
C - No.

Since the year that you first became licensed how many plateholders have obtained their plates for nothing from the council.

A - None all the free plates had been issued before I became involved in the trade.
B - All of them, but everyone hates me and so no-one told me they were giving them out.
C - I'll scream and scream and scream till I get my own way.



I have left you some subtle hints to the answers to the questions.

B. Lucky

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TF pi$$ed on his chips.