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MR T
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We have already had Councillors that were Taxi drivers. been there, done that, but do not forget that if he was on a licensing committee, he would have to declare his interest, and more than likely excluded from any voting, oh yes :wink: we have also had a go at getting a driver elected as an MP.... as usual your 10 years behind the times :wink:

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My MY MrT im sure its been tried but WE see no reason why we cant make a success of it, just because you couldnt.
When you doing some more tennis courts???????????
OUR DAY WILL COME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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We did succeed, I was only pointing out that we are not all thick. and I did put a smiley on the end.


I see it's the Royal WE again

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WE MrT refers to the membership of our REPUBLICAN union!!!!!!!!!
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Well it seems to me theres alot of tunnel vision floating about here, i can fully understand the frustration at the decisions of many Cllrs, but surely its obvious that theres nothing to stop GMB or whoever from assisting cab drivers to become Cllrs, now lots of other self interest groups partake in the Local Govt scene, the question is why not cab drivers, the results of not being involved are clear to all.When we have cab driver Cllrs that immediately destroys the plaintiff cry AMATEUR! The GMB is very well placed to enable driver Cllrs, time to plan for it i think.

I agree with almost everyone on here that there are too many LAs but ive not been made aware of any plan or indeed the formulation of any grouping to examine this problem. What for instance is the NTAs policy on this?or Brian Rowlands outfit?
In London of course we are extremely lucky with only one LA, despite plans originally for 34 of them [every borough] just returned today from N/cstle where pandamonium reigns with cross border issues. I definitely agreewith JD that we need a drastic reduction in the number of LAs, but to think of replacing them with undemocratic quangos is in my opinion madness. No doubt the debate will rage on, i like JDs style and look forward to his PROCLAMATION on this issue!
DECISIONS ARE TAKEN BY THOSE THAT TURN UP!!!!!!!!!!!


Terry me auld shun yer learning :shock:

I almost agree with you......but I think the NTA position is to concentrate on what is achievable as opposed to a long term aim.

Mr Rowland.....despite being errm...Mr Rowland has a key role to play, as in my opinion, he has some decent ideas....although I dont agree with all of them.

In my experience (even though I am ever so young and pretty) the only problems with the taxi trade are;

1, The taxi trade
2, The Licensing Department
3, The Licensing Committee

Take those three things away and you have me.... who is ultimately best placed to decide. :D

More seriously, the trade has self interest in abundance.

Licensing officers have often pre ideas about the taxi trade

Councillors dont seem to have a clue about anything other than knitting.

I think what is actually needed is clear guidance, not the current set of rules interpreted differently in 343 different places.

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GMB Branch secretary wrote:
Well it seems to me theres alot of tunnel vision floating about here, i can fully understand the frustration at the decisions of many Cllrs, but surely its obvious that theres nothing to stop GMB or whoever from assisting cab drivers to become Cllrs, now lots of other self interest groups partake in the Local Govt scene, the question is why not cab drivers, the results of not being involved are clear to all.When we have cab driver Cllrs that immediately destroys the plaintiff cry AMATEUR! The GMB is very well placed to enable driver Cllrs, time to plan for it i think.

I agree with almost everyone on here that there are too many LAs but ive not been made aware of any plan or indeed the formulation of any grouping to examine this problem. What for instance is the NTAs policy on this?or Brian Rowlands outfit?
In London of course we are extremely lucky with only one LA, despite plans originally for 34 of them [every borough] just returned today from N/cstle where pandamonium reigns with cross border issues. I definitely agreewith JD that we need a drastic reduction in the number of LAs, but to think of replacing them with undemocratic quangos is in my opinion madness. No doubt the debate will rage on, i like JDs style and look forward to his PROCLAMATION on this issue!
DECISIONS ARE TAKEN BY THOSE THAT TURN UP!!!!!!!!!!!


Terry me auld shun yer learning :shock:

I almost agree with you......but I think the NTA position is to concentrate on what is achievable as opposed to a long term aim.

Mr Rowland.....despite being errm...Mr Rowland has a key role to play, as in my opinion, he has some decent ideas....although I dont agree with all of them.

In my experience (even though I am ever so young and pretty) the only problems with the taxi trade are;

1, The taxi trade
2, The Licensing Department
3, The Licensing Committee

Take those three things away and you have me.... who is ultimately best placed to decide. :D

More seriously, the trade has self interest in abundance.

Licensing officers have often pre ideas about the taxi trade

Councillors dont seem to have a clue about anything other than knitting.

I think what is actually needed is clear guidance, not the current set of rules interpreted differently in 343 different places.

CC

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Well Terry gmb, your always shouting from the roof tops and from anywhere else you think folk will listen to you.
Why don't you do something constructive and get it sorted, you can get in touch with the Muppet's in the Government and get the ball rolling, but wait until after the gen election, then you will have 5 years or so to kick some ass :shock: or are you all mouth and no trousers
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In my opinion Cap the biggest problem in the taxi trade is self interest.

JD made a valid point when he stated that councils were in place to protect the public and he was interested only in protecting the taxi driver.

We, as a trade, need to support the councils in protecting the public.

We need to understand that it is the public who are our customers.

We need to understand that there is common ground when negotiating with the councils and utilise it fully.

If we go to the council for example, and we want CCTV fitted, we sell the idea to them on the benefits to the public ................. and then we cement our negotiations with a "oh and it will encourage drivers to work later as they will feel safer", which means more cabs on the road and available for hire.

This is not fooking rocket science children ................. and it produces results that benefit everyone.

Maybe I'll start a new Common Sense UK Taxi Association .............. working for the good of taxi drivers and their passengers.

B. Lucky :D

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Taxi drivers'? common sense? where you coming from?... :roll: :wink:

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MR T wrote:
Taxi drivers'? common sense? where you coming from?... :roll: :wink:


I didn't suggest that we would be strong on numbers MrT ................ but I bet it would get more done.

B. Lucky :P :P

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GA wrote:
In my opinion Cap the biggest problem in the taxi trade is self interest.

JD made a valid point when he stated that councils were in place to protect the public and he was interested only in protecting the taxi driver.

We, as a trade, need to support the councils in protecting the public.

We need to understand that it is the public who are our customers.


The public need to realise that we are self employed and that we supply a service should they wish to use it? The only reason the public use Taxis is because they NEED too? If they didn't need Taxis then we wouldn't be in business.

I don't share your enthusiasm that the public should be put before cab drivers or that its all right for a council to refuse the trade a fare increase because they want to keep fares low for joe public.

I'm getting a little cheased off with sitting around a table with councillors and listening to what they want for the public as if they paid our wages or subsidised our business. Councillors and Government give us sweet FA all they do is take and they take it in large handfulls. They don't even supply Taxi ranks, but they like taking the license fee. Having to Pay for crowd controllers was the last straw as far as i'm concerned. You certainly won't see bus drivers putting there hand in their pocket for crowd controllers.

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JD wrote:
I don't share your enthusiasm that the public should be put before cab drivers or that its all right for a council to refuse the trade a fare increase because they want to keep fares low for joe public.

Regards

JD


Whoa there JD me old mucker.

At no point did I even suggest that the public should be put before a cab driver ...................... what I suggested was that if we want to get what we want then we need to negotiate with the councils on the basis of public benefit.

Say for example you want to increase quality standards to properly and fairly regulate our industry .................. the council will be reluctant to impliment it if you only argue the benefits to the trade, however should you show clearly how the exact same quality standards would benefit the public they are more likely to act upon your suggestions.

Do you want to join the C.S.U.K.T.A we will show you how to do it.

B. Lucky :D

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GA the CSUKTA whats that?
Why cant anyone answer the question, why not Cab drivers as Cllrs, MrT says it was done what went wrong?
Skippy come out your shell [still being ripped off and FRIGHTEND to stand like a man] I havnt got the detailed answers to this problem, all im advocating is lets ORGANISE ourselves into a position where we are powerful. The perpetual WAILING about the present situation, with no semblance of ideas to change it merely perpetuates the situation. You are ignored because Politically you are irrelevant,your current tactics are an abysmal failure.
DRIVER COUNCILLORS NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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CSUKTA Wolfie is the to still to be formed Common Sense UK Taxi Association.

I just sometimes think that some people don't act with the sense they were born with ............. councillors, polititians, LO's, propietors and indeed drivers should impliment some degree of common sense within their arguments.

B. Lucky :D

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Terry, you have my sincerest apologies if in some way I have given you the impression that people should not continue to try, I was only pointing out that the idea was not new.

As to what happened to the Councillor's some left, some were voted out.

The relationship between the Taxi/ private hire trade and Councillors is very good in my opinion, and you're right people who represent the trade should never walk out of a meeting,.

Captain John. who is the boss man in Cardiff.

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