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Hows about we discuss the NCC itself ....and its agenda. It says on its website that its funded by the Department of Trade and Industry (yup the same dept that paid for the OFT report) and its panel members are appointed by them. :shock:

I think if the DTI had their way the 96 would be a big fat zero. :shock:

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THE NCC CAME TO YOU? :lol: :lol: :lol:

I'm led to believe that's exactly what they did. :shock:



Really? :^o

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I've got a good idea ................. lets not debate the questions raised .................... lets try and personally assassinate an individual instead.

What a great basis for a taxi issue debating forum.

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Hows about we discuss the NCC itself ....and its agenda. It says on its website that its funded by the Department of Trade and Industry (yup the same dept that paid for the OFT report) and its panel members are appointed by them. :shock:


Hows about we discuss the NTTG and NTA...and their agenda.

For a start, how much are their plates worth - £100 million, at least?

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THE NCC CAME TO YOU? :lol: :lol: :lol:

I'm led to believe that's exactly what they did. :shock:



Really? :^o


Well why don't you ask them Jimbo before accussing people of lying?

But of course, that wouldn't suit your agenda, because the answer would be wrong, from your perspective at least.

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I think it's worth remembering what the NCC said around the times of OFT.

http://www.ncc.org.uk/cgi-bin/kmdb10.cg ... urrent.htm

Their Scottish conterparts said;

http://www.scotconsumer.org.uk/publicat ... 12taxi.pdf

Maybe it's a case of a new chap at the top of the OFT tree getting things in place, in terms of 96 justifications to the NCC, before OFT 2 starts.

Who knows? :roll:

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And of course it worth remembering that the Consumers Association also agreed with OFT.

Phil Evans, principal policy adviser at the Consumers' Association, said: "Taxis are an important service for all consumers and a focused and limited set of reforms will ensure that the public get the best of what currently happens, combined with greater provision and wider availability.

"A safe and easily accessible taxi service ranks highly in the everyday lives of many consumers. The OFT has recognised that the liberalisation of licensing must not compromise consumer safety and that by lifting entry restrictions this will help starve the illegal market, which depends on the shortage of licensed operators, of trade."


Standards not restrictions, what a novel idea. :wink:

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I JD ...........is that where you go for your holidays with your bucket and spade???


Thats sounds like something Nigel might say, you sure your not him in disguise?

A clone perhaps. We'll see how you perform, its quite easy to spot the tell tale signs.

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THE NCC CAME TO YOU? :lol: :lol: :lol:

I'm led to believe that's exactly what they did. :shock:



Really? :^o


Well why don't you ask them Jimbo before accussing people of lying?

But of course, that wouldn't suit your agenda, because the answer would be wrong, from your perspective at least.


I have asked JD direcctly, on several occaisions, over the last 24 hours to confirm or deny whether or not he contacted the NCC , or they contacted him. He certainly had advance knowledge of the press release. He chooses to obsfucate. That is his choice. I can,under those circumstances only speculate as to the truth. Should JD issue a denial I will unreseverdly apologise for clicking on an emoticon. I did not call anyone a liar.

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I have asked JD direcctly, on several occaisions, over the last 24 hours to confirm or deny whether or not he contacted the NCC , or they contacted him.



Jimbo you can only make a lie stretch so far? Ask Nigel?

Here's what you said.

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HE NCC CAME TO YOU?

****When we all know it MUST have been the other way round?****


Considering you were of the opinion that you already knew it was the other way around, there was no need to inform you otherwise? After all, I had already told you they came to TDO, yet you had your own misguided opinion. I saw no reason to extinguish your foolishness.

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JD wrote:
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I have asked JD direcctly, on several occaisions, over the last 24 hours to confirm or deny whether or not he contacted the NCC , or they contacted him.



Jimbo you can only make a lie stretch so far? Ask Nigel?

Here's what you said.

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HE NCC CAME TO YOU?

****When we all know it MUST have been the other way round?****


Considering you were of the opinion that you already knew it was the other way around, there was no need to inform you otherwise? After all, I had already told you they came to TDO, yet you had your own misguided opinion. I saw no reason to extinguish your foolishness.

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So that's another denial is it?? :doubt: :doubt:


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I would just like to know how the quality controls will be enforced when the advocates of it on here quite clearly have no faith in the local authorities.

Or are we to abolish all enforcement to reduce costs to taxi drivers?

What you fail to understand is that quality controls come at a price, the price is determined by the cost of enforcement and is met by licensee's.

What is still not clear are the requirements of licence that would constitute the quality controls you apparently advocate, and as they have been previously requested without response I can only conclude that you have not compiled them with any thought and so are aware they would be easily criticised.

As you, JD, are so aware of activities in Gateshead maybe you would like to comment on the policy changes being proposed to council and how they compare with your own objectives.

The answer is very clear ........... in order to control the industry in the best interest of the consumer the authority must have an element of control over every aspect of it, ensuring that they have in place the staff to administer and enforce any conditions they see fit to attach.

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So in the 72% of councils that don't restrict, it effects their ability to enforce the law?

What the NCC have said is that via their survey, and I like you have yet to see the full data, many customers are using un-licensed vehicles.

Now that could be helped by having more cabs licensed to pick up, rather than un-licensed PH picking up.

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To clear things up TDO was approached just over a month ago and asked very nicely if they could use the restricting and plate value lists.

As they are JD's I passed on the request to him, and it appears that JD agreed that they could use any info on his lists.

The NCC kindly sent us an advanced copy of the press release, which is what I put up 63 minutes earlier than allowed for the benefit of our esteemed members and readers.

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Alex wrote:
To clear things up TDO was approached just over a month ago and asked very nicely if they could use the restricting and plate value lists.

As they are JD's I passed on the request to him, and it appears that JD agreed that they could use any info on his lists.

The NCC kindly sent us an advanced copy of the press release, which is what I put up 63 minutes earlier than allowed for the benefit of our esteemed members and readers.

Alex
Alex I am quite certain that is exactly what happened, but I would not be surprised if somebody had e-mail them in the first place and suggested that is what they do.

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He certainly had advance knowledge of the press release. He chooses to obsfucate.


As did the NTA, NTTG, no doubt umpteen trade publications and hundreds of newspapers.

So your evidence isn't exactly a smoking gun jimbo.

Anyway, who cares if you're barking up the wrong tree anyway?

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