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Well said Gateshead Angel.
You certainly put Sussex Man and his Entourage in there place.The trouble with most southerners is they cry and twist when they dont get there own way. So sad to see grown adults behaving like spoilt children.Never mind though they will be big lads when they grow up.
Any one know if the chemist's down south have stocked up on vaseline supplies yet.
I did like the comments from Nidge on www.taxiandprivatehire.co.uk

Cheers and B Lucky Too.

Frankie.

Ps, was the OFT report fair . Certainly Not it must have had influence from a puppeteer " Private Hire Operator ".

So far as the T&G's mention to fares is of concern the number of taxis in any area has never determined taxi fares.

Taxi Fares are controlled by local authorities, not by the trade.

Fares are usually calculated on regional earnings and vehicle running costs, not because theres plenty of taxis.

As for the managed growth theory which is now being exalted as the new way forward for the entire country, the T&G seem to have forgotton that 50% of the countrys taxis have never been held back through limits, they would therefore propose to burden half of the countries taxi drivers with mandatory increased license fees.

They cannot accept that current legislation allows surveys, instead they wish to push their own agendas.

Captain cab

Sorry have I missed something here?

Mr Angel you are agreeing with me, and disagreeing with Mr Kavanagh, where he mistakenly implied that all restricted areas are cheaper.

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IDFIMH

of course by shout and twist when people dont get there own way,

i take it you dont mean set up a factionalised group, go around the country scaring people into giving them £20, raising £40,000 and spending it all on a survey that means sweet fa, and has more holes in it than the titanic.

you couldnt mean that could you.

In other words the existing system, which has been deemed to be flawed by OFT.

I imagined a new supa dupa system, that would be the answer to our prayers, and what are we offered to meet the demands of the future?

A 19 year old flawed, over-bureaucratic, highly costly system, that has done nothing more than bought dozens of second homes, for solicitors and barristers.

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IDFIMH

now this must be talking about the T&G

Nigel if you want to plug TTF2, then just ask.

It's not a problem.

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IDFIMH

You appear to be half right

Captain Cab

No SM you haven't missed anything, it is becoming more likely that Nationally we cannot be properly represented.

By the same token we cannot be investigated Nationally either.

Don't get to exited though, my membership and loyalty to the T&G and our branch members still remains in tact.

You see SM we like what we do, we want to keep doing it. The problem lies in little people like you who couldn't give a stuff how many people you bankrupt as long as you get what you want.

Your arguments are so localised its untrue.

£50k for a plate - not up here
Loads of jockies - not up here
Un-met demand - not up here
leech plateholders - not up here
High fares - not up here
jockies wanting their own plates - not up here (cause they don't want to have to buy a car)

You see by generalising you confuse the argumants others make. You are so presumptious, particularly because you insist that everywhere is the same as Eastbourne. I've said it before, time and time again, IF YOU CAN'T CONVINCE YOUR OWN AUTRHORITY IT SHOWS YOU HAVEN'T GOT A STRONG ENOUGH ARGUMENT. Unless of course there is an impending announcement from the South Coast.

Gateshead will soon re-impose restrictions on the numbers of H/C vehciles it licenses, it will have to as we have put forward a decent case, based mainly on the number of drivers who have gone bankrupt and the ammount of licenses that have been returned due to the propietor leaving the trade. We are a small town with more H/C than some small Cities, the only reason, we can see, that the council would want to increase numbers is to increase revenue and I couldn't see them going to court to argue their case on that alone.

This OFT report must be so disappointing to someome like you, someone who insisted that it will change the trade FOR YOUR OWN BENEFIT, but claimed it would change it for some majority.

Still never mind SM, I'm sure someone will sell you their plate and you can then enter the trade exactly the same way as everyone else has had to.

B. Lucky

I’m already on record in stating that, “when confronted with total deregulation, people who wish to restrict Hackney carriage numbers prefer the managed growth policy as the lesser of the two evils”

People might take the opposite view that managed growth is not what it seems and it should be interpreted as “restricted growth”.

I suppose it depends on ones point of view, I wonder how a court of law would interpret managed growth, especially one that resides in Dublin?

Fares? What a load of nonsense is talked about fares. Outside of London, throughout the country there is very little overall difference in meter tariffs. How can you can you compare a four mile journey and not compare a one two or three mile journey. Why not compare flag falls and waiting time or tariff two? Why compare only tariff one?

Data can be manipulated to give the end user the perception that the information being supplied is correct. In most cases, it probably is but you can only determine that if you have access to all the information that precipitated the findings.

A proper analysis should have taken the course of getting fare charts from every licensing Authority in the country and compiling a comprehensive study. It not only could have given a national picture it could have been broken down into regions. The evidence should have shown flag fall rates, tariff two rates, waiting time and the yardage. Only then could an accurate picture be taken of fare charges.

Best wishes

John Davies.
Manchester

If drivers have gone bankrupt, then what sense is there to restrict numbers.

It wont stop hundreds more drivers being licensed, and how many cars do you know drive themselves?

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IDFIMH

It may come as a surprise to you, but if the government repeal sec 16, I wont be the only one to benefit.

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IDFIMH

Unless of course, it's you.

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IDFIMH

So what your saying is that the T&G cannot represent you on a national basis?

The trade can and should be represented nationally, it would appear to me that theres too many people out there preaching that there system of working is better than everywhere else.

When the fact of the matter is that there is no ideal scenario for everywhere.

The members should dictate the policies of the National Bodies, not an elite few, which is happening at the moment within the North West, and being listened to by the T&G.

Taxis are a localised form of transport, all key decisions that affect you go directly through your local authority, yet in Gateshead the local association has recently fell away after over 30 years! due to backbiting the committee. This is the very time you need local associations.

It is not the fault of SM that there may have been bankruptcies in the North East, anyone entering this job should be aware of how much they can and cannot earn. The association on the ground should be able to negotiate locally for whats best for the trade. The trade certainly be seen to disbar people.

Regards

Captain Cab

John,

Once again wise words

Captain Cab