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 Post subject: Re: Rename
PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 11:27 pm 
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Reply: Nothing as long as it is shown as such and not done under the pretext of being a Taxi Forum.

If the Home Office class PH as taxis, then who are the folks behind TDO to question them. :wink:

Still I will make you a promise and do my best to make far more PH drivers become taxi drivers. :wink:


Reply: the skilled assasin befriends his victim, gains his confidence so as to make his foul deed easier to complete. I am sure you will do you best as any boy scout would. I hope not too many find it a poison chalice.


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T. , you laughed at Sussex and called him a "luddite" but as he is the progressive one and you are the one who wishes to remain in the past, the term is more appropriately applied to yourself.

However I do wonder at the number of posts from our south coast friend

Also you say that the public ask for a Taxi on the phone. That is because it is used as a general term by the public....you don't hear:
"I should like to book the services of a hackney carriage to convey me to the local hostelry".

You really should realise that there is far more to unite us than to divide us and if we were all to act together we could achieve far more. Sure we compete commercially but so do Airlines but it doesn't stop them cooperating on many important safety or regulation issues etc.

But I thought your comment about TESCO TAXIS was very good


Reply: WOW there is someone who can spot a gem amongst the dross. I dont want to keep things the same (per Ludite). I want the trade to be progressive, modernised etc, "Sussex" are the Ludites they dont want to change things they want the system to stay the same, they just want to join the club for nothing. Like every Dereg campaigner they jump ship to the other side the minute they get their hands on a plate.
As for Airlines good example(not) the routes and access to major airports is strictly controlled by international treaties to protect national carriers. Ask Branson about the BA dirty tricks, he used up £millions to fight them, ask Freddie Laker about his "free-market" experience or Ryan Air ask them why they fly to airports 40 miles from the cities, it aint to give taxis more work. Taxis vs PH in the sky. When the big guns focus on our trade, will Sussex and his chums claim a victory for free trade as they decide whether to sign on the dole or work for TAXIS ARE US. The current system works, it can be improved, but Dereg is not working in the areas that have it, the services to the public are no better, drivers are no better off, the only people who gain are the large radio circuits because owner/drivers are forced to join to have any chance of making a living. "Sussex" hates the "exploitative" companies but plays right into their hands by advocating Dereg. Dereg will be the death of independant owner/drivers.


Now where have I heard all this before, I know I've said it, T. you are spot on, only problem you cannot put a brain into a plank of wood.. :wink:

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T. do you know that you and JD have something: in common. when you click on to your profile and JDs there is no record of you? :-oImage

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Reply: WOW there is someone who can spot a gem amongst the dross. I dont want to keep things the same (per Ludite). I want the trade to be progressive, modernised etc, "Sussex" are the Ludites they dont want to change things they want the system to stay the same, they just want to join the club for nothing.


Err, didn't you say you got your plate for nothing? :roll:

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Like every Dereg campaigner they jump ship to the other side the minute they get their hands on a plate.


I've had my hands on a hackney plate for years, but I've never changed my mind about restricted numbers.

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As for Airlines good example(not) the routes and access to major airports is strictly controlled by international treaties to protect national carriers. Ask Branson about the BA dirty tricks, he used up £millions to fight them, ask Freddie Laker about his "free-market" experience or Ryan Air ask them why they fly to airports 40 miles from the cities, it aint to give taxis more work. Taxis vs PH in the sky.


So you didn't read abou the recent 'open skies' deal between the EU and the US?

In any case, all industries are regulated to a greater or lesser extent, and I'm certainly not advocating a deregulated taxi industry, just the right for drivers to operate their own vehicle, just like you took the opportunity to do.


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When the big guns focus on our trade, will Sussex and his chums claim a victory for free trade as they decide whether to sign on the dole or work for TAXIS ARE US.


So what's to stop Tescos et al muscling in at the moment? Answer - the rank and hail markets can't be monopolised by a single big operator because drivers can work on their own.

That leaves the pre-booked market, so why haven't they muscled in on that - you say local decision making keeps them out, but that's rubbish - what's to stop them developing a national brand operated locally? That's effectively what Tescos do in the retail sector at the moment, so if they wanted to do the same with the trade then they would have done it by now.


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The current system works, it can be improved, but Dereg is not working in the areas that have it, the services to the public are no better, drivers are no better off, the only people who gain are the large radio circuits because owner/drivers are forced to join to have any chance of making a living. "Sussex" hates the "exploitative" companies but plays right into their hands by advocating Dereg. Dereg will be the death of independant owner/drivers


Wot you mean like the London black cab sector? No sign of the death of independent there, and no sign of "GBCs 'r' us" either.

Your drivers in a "deregulated" market who would be forced to work for a circuit would be doing the same for a PH circuit in a "regulated" market. The difference is that in a derestricted market the drivers would have the choice.

So you're wrong - it's you that's forcing drivers to do what you want in a restricted market, no the other way round :D

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what hisses me off up here in the north is the amount of drivers that got a plate for nowt,sold it later then the council deregulated and the same person got another plate for nowt again and sold that one :evil: It should have always been no value on the plate and hand it back when finished. It just makes you wonder who gets the whisper... :x :x :x :?:


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Everytime T's phone rings he's accepting a private hire booking, bet he'd be straight on to the LA if he saw a PH taking a flag down!


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 Post subject: Re: Rename
PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 7:23 am 
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Surley this site should be called WANNABEE TAXI ONLINE ?

It's been called a lot worse than that. :-$

But before you start questioning the name of this site please go and ask;

The owners of the Daily Mirror as to why they talk about issues other than mirrors.

The owners of Taxi'talk' magazine as to why they talk about PH, one or twice a year.

The owners of Boots as to why they sell everything bar.

And the admin of the cabby forum who only ever talk about the happenings on TDO. :D

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what hisses me off up here in the north is the amount of drivers that got a plate for nowt,sold it later then the council deregulated and the same person got another plate for nowt again and sold that one :evil: It should have always been no value on the plate and hand it back when finished. It just makes you wonder who gets the whisper... :x :x :x :?:


Badger if the council deregulated then everyone would be able to get a plate for free ...................... so how could the ficticiuos person you mention demand a premium for it?

In the same example how many people do you know who got a plate for free during the restricted period ................... because in Gateshead I know of very few.

are you coming over to sunny Gateshead on the 11th?

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Gone quiet aint he? :lol:


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Everytime T's phone rings he's accepting a private hire booking, bet he'd be straight on to the LA if he saw a PH taking a flag down!


reply: A telephone booking is not a PH booking just because someone books a taxi over the phone. PH can only do pre-booked work a hackney is not restricted to rank and street work, there is nothing to prevent a hack accepting pre-booked or telephone work. PH does not have exclusive rights to telephone work. That's reality whether you agree with it or not, PH cars suppliment the taxi trade, there is no PH trade it never existed in its own right. We have a 2 tier system and so far no-one has come up with a workable alternative.


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So you're wrong - it's you that's forcing drivers to do what you want in a restricted market, no the other way round :D[/quote]


Reply: Why are there some many "minicabs" or PH's in delimited areas, surley every driver would be in a taxi? Why would anyone bother with PH if the advantages of a taxi were freely available ?

Answ: Because numbers are limited by other means, restricted vehicles, complex knowlege tests, etc etc. When I can walk into any Council office in any part of the country and get a Hackney Plate I will beleive what you say until then its just the haves Vs the have nots. You want dereg on plates why not on vehicle types, fares, boundaries everything ! I dont hear you calling for a freemarket.


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A telephone booking is not a PH booking


im tryin to figure this one out methinks its a booking but what kind of bookin. luke


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luke wrote:
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A telephone booking is not a PH booking


im tryin to figure this one out methinks its a booking but what kind of bookin. luke


Luke. If you are ha-ha old enough, you might remember a film called Carry On caddy way before private hire came into existence, in the film you'll see that they are Hackney's with radios in them and a Booking Office,,,

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MR T wrote:
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A telephone booking is not a PH booking


im tryin to figure this one out methinks its a booking but what kind of bookin. luke


Luke. If you are ha-ha old enough, you might remember a film called Carry On caddy way before private hire came into existence, in the film you'll see that they are Hackney's with radios in them and a Booking Office,,,


is that supposed to be helpful. aint seen the film i was just wonderin what do you call a bookin that comes over the phone. luke


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T. wrote:
reply: A telephone booking is not a PH booking just because someone books a taxi over the phone.

Depends on what you mean by PH.

If you mean private hire vehicle booking, then clearly it's not as a taxi is always a taxi, but if you mean a private hire booking, then that's what it is, a private booking for the hire of the taxi. :wink:

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