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When T. speaks about "investment" what he means is people paying thousands for a plate from an existing license holder because they can't get on directly from the council.

Thus T. gets one gratis, but objects to others doing likewise, then when he needs the plate no longer he'll sell it for thousands to those others and call that investment

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thats a neet trick maybe i'll ask my council to do what his council is doing. would that make me an instant invester. luke

to be honest T i don't think you know what your talking about. i have a mate in burnley who paid 25 grand for a plate two years ago, burnley deregulated a few weeks, ago he's now got nowt exept a big hole in his bank acount. i dont know where you work because you keep it a secret but from what ive read on this website and other websites deregulation is more a probability than an improbability. luke

Reply: Please using the name Luke is fooling no-one, I dont want a debate with a ventiloquist's dummy. The ploy is not working and shows your desperation to put over a flawed arguement.

Reply: Do you think then that all those years ago when the first ever licenses were issue they just picked people at random and gave them a plate? No they licensed the people who had established a trade they regulated to bring stability and consitencey to a trade that was growing out of control. Market forces failed so regulations were introduced. The better responsible operators needed protection from the fly-by nights and unscruptulous rogues. This gave the public confidence, they used licensed taxis because they new they would not be ripped off or carried in dangerous carriages. They licensed the operators that built up a reputation for reliability and safety, the ones who had made investments in the first place. The trade is there because someone years ago offered a service the public were prepared to pay for. The Councils only regulate or license the trade they do not generate any trade or business. The business is there because someone offers a service, a license only gives the person offering that service validity and credability.

the thing is de-reg is wrong, the buses have provided a case in point, examples include manchester, oxford.

as for dereg itself, what about all the places that have "re regged"

trains are another example, as are the utilities,

these guys believe in free market economics, are cronies of adam smith,

no way is jd a taxi driver, nor is tdo, susses might be though, and skull is an ex taxi baron who is now a jockey for someone!

Reply: WANNABEES, product of the nanny state, dont want or cant accept responsibilty for their own action. The very bottom of the human food chain, they try to live off others but are so stupid they kill off the host they feed off, the have-nots aways make the most noise and despise the acheivements in others.

I suspect JD would be able to give you first hand evidence of what happened in 1847 when the first uk taxi act came into being, as he was there, but I suspect all that happened was that those acting as taxis outside of any law, got grandfather rights and acted inside of the law.

In the same way PH acted either side of 1976.

And when the folks driving cabs took a deserved retirement they handed their plates back to the council, as happens with PH.

However some taxi drivers decided they could sell their plates to others, and others were quite happy to pay. But it doesn't make it right, and in time it will be no-more.

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And when the folks driving cabs took a deserved retirement they handed their plates back to the council, as happens with PH.

Reply: I note you say "folks driving cabs", is this because a License to driver taxis has never been transferable as it is purley a personal thing. Whereas a vehicle or operators license is transfereable, owning a plate does not require the holder to have a drivers license. Again you attempt to distort the truth to promote your own ends. It worked for a time but the decision takers have seen that Dereg is not in reality the way you pictured it, your wetdream turned out to be a everyone else's nightmare. Re-Reg is on the rise and will predominate.

And if I had my way that would go.

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Ok then, tell me, out of the 50/60 odd councils that have de-limited in the last few years, where that's the case?

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Not sure where you get that info from, but hey ho.

I can live with 50/60 de-limiting every three/four years, and one/two re-limiting.

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Reply from T. King Canute was down the south coast wasnt he? Got his feet wet because he didnt' see the tide was turning. Your feet are wet right up to your selective ears.

The whole restricted numbers gig is about feeding off others, innit?

And a cartel may be an achievement in your book, but from the more general perspective they're undesirable.

And weren't you a wanabee until you won on the plate lottery?

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Your problem is that you think the only way to regulate taxi markets is to restrict vehicle numbers.

Correct me if I'm wrong but I can't see many derestrictionists on here arguing for an unregulated market, indeed I'm all for stiffer regulation in the form of quality control and indeed I think the vast majority of derestrictionists argue likewise. Ditto with fare controls.

So it's hardly about laissez faire economics, thus I wouldn't bother playing the Adam Smith card.

Incidentally, I don't think Adam Smith was as free market as people generally believe, but that's another debate.

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