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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 5:25 pm 
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Sussex wrote:
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The fact they can raise the money and make a profit from the business they buy shows they have something you clearly don't, business acumen.

Which is why we have the butcher, the baker and the candlestick maker owning plates, and earning their money off the back of licensed drivers. :sad:


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You are now anti the entrepreneur, the job and wealth creators. One man one plate, no circuits. Are you in Sussex or Lancaster County USA, home of the Amish, technology stopped for them in 1940, who are you 1840 Amish ?
For "Sussex" in future please use AMISH BOY


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You are now anti the entrepreneur, the job and wealth creators.

But how can someone be an entrepreneur in a restricted trade? :lol:

And what wealth are they creating that can't be created by the licensed trade itself? :?

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One man one plate, no circuits.

Loads of firm have loads of plates in de-limited areas, and good luck to them.

They are your entrepreneurs, cos they have to earn their money by being competitive and meeting their customer's needs.

Your so-called restricted entrepreneurs are only meeting their own needs. Which is ok for them, but not for the trade IMO. :wink:

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Sussex wrote:
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Anything that is worth having has to be paid for.

Apart from, it would appear, your plate. :roll:


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I put 11 years in on the waiting list. Continuing the trade, contributing to the good name and goodwill of my local taxi trade by providing a service to the community. I have continue this service as a responsible Owner and have introduced and trained many people to the trade most of whom have gone on to become owners themselves. All were glad to have the job, slavery has been abolished even in the taxi trade, except for "sussex" who is a slave to his stupidity as he remains in a job he appears to hate for a pitance of an income.
O' Happy Da-ay. Please master can I drive the big cab today ?


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I love this job chap. :D

Look, you might have liked being a patsy for 11 years giving away a large chunk of your takings to someone else.

But I'm not, and I will fight the good fight until such time as the 28% becomes 0%. :wink:

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[So you are against the creation of jobs, the owners are providing work for these people, most Owners started as drivers its a progresion. Anything that is worth having has to be paid for. Do you think it fair and good for the trade to hand a plate to every person that can pass a simple knowlege test and a CRB. Public confidence in the trade would be quickly lost. Anything you get for nothing is worth exactly what you pay for it.


Well a badge is handed to anyone who can pass a simple knowledge test and a CRB in many restricted areas, and the owners are quite happy to take them on irrespective of the public's confidence in the trade - it's all about profit, pure and simple.

And you still haven't answered my question - if a driver is deemed fit to drive, why not own as well?

And of course a new driver can buy a plate anyway, and if that was the case you would then say that he's now a real taxi driver, irrespective of the fact that he's just reached the same standard that you belittle above.

Your hypocrisy on this reveals your true motives T., it's not about trade quality or public service or whatever, it's about you profiting by keeping people in their place, which generally means below you, whether in hierarchical or financial terms.

"Creation of jobs", FFS. :lol:

What you promote is stopping people running working for themselves, then when the are forced to come to you asking for a drive then you characterise that as creating jobs :lol:

It would be funny if it wasn't so sad :sad:

I must say you do a good line in spin, but when it comes down to the substance your main concern is yourself and no one else. :lol:

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Sussex wrote:
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You are now anti the entrepreneur, the job and wealth creators.

But how can someone be an entrepreneur in a restricted trade? :lol:

And what wealth are they creating that can't be created by the licensed trade itself? :?


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Well AMISH BOY, every trade or calling is subject to controls, try to open a shop, pub, club, garage any business and you will find there are limitations to where how and why you should be allowed to operate. That's what business people do they learn the rules and decided whether the investment is worth the risk. I am an entrepreneur in a restricted area, my business has grown and I have diversified into other areas, the restrictions gave my local trade stablility. I was happy to invest knowing that there would not suddenly be a flood of newcommers that would disrupt the balance of the local trade.


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Well AMISH BOY, every trade or calling is subject to controls, try to open a shop, pub, club, garage any business and you will find there are limitations to where how and why you should be allowed to operate.

If I want to run a sweet shop, I go and buy a shop and fill it with sweets.

I don't need a council telling me there are too many sweet shops. And if they did the courts would say they shouldn't. [-X

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I love this job chap. :D

Look, you might have liked being a patsy for 11 years giving away a large chunk of your takings to someone else.

But I'm not, and I will fight the good fight until such time as the 28% becomes 0%. :wink:


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Amish Boy do you feel the same when you buy goods in a shop, do you begrudge the shop owner his profit, his right to a livilihood. Did not the owner I worked for desrve a return on his investment in a vehicle, insurance, maintenance etc,. I earnt a good wage, sufficient to buy a house raise a family put some saving by. Then when I got my plate I was able to buy a vehicle insure it etc.. How was I a patsy, I now live in a bigger house than that owner, driver a better car, employ more people, I say thank you to him.


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Sussex wrote:
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Well AMISH BOY, every trade or calling is subject to controls, try to open a shop, pub, club, garage any business and you will find there are limitations to where how and why you should be allowed to operate.

If I want to run a sweet shop, I go and buy a shop and fill it with sweets.

I don't need a council telling me there are too many sweet shops. And if they did the courts would say they shouldn't. [-X


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Amish Boy you said it "BUY A SHOP", like buy a plate. In your world someone would GIVE you a sweet shop, remember you said to buy such a thing is very very wrong. I think I will swap my plate for a sweet shop.
Quote " don't need a Council telling me too many shops" Please tell Tesco that, they have a problem in north London, silly council said too many supermarkets and silly judge in big house agreed, poor Tesco, perhaps they should go too seaside somewhere near Sussex and watch the tide turning, its a lovely sight makes me feel all warm inside, all together now, HAPPY DAYS ARE HERE AGAIN !!!!!!!!


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Amish Boy you said it "BUY A SHOP", like buy a plate.

No chap my shop would be my cab, my sweets my petrol. :wink:

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Please tell Tesco that, they have a problem in north London, silly council said too many supermarkets and silly judge in big house agreed, poor Tesco, perhaps they should go too seaside somewhere near Sussex and watch the tide turning, its a lovely sight makes me feel all warm inside, all together now, HAPPY DAYS ARE HERE AGAIN !!!!!!!!

Oh dear the bottom of the barrel has been reached methinks.

I think lack of land is the reason why Tesco's don't have umpteen shops in your area, not becuase there is a numbers restriction. [-(

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Amish Boy do you feel the same when you buy goods in a shop, do you begrudge the shop owner his profit, his right to a livilihood.

I don't begrudge anybody anything, but I do begrudge the likes of you begrudging the likes of me a cab plate. [-X

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Sussex wrote:
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Amish Boy you said it "BUY A SHOP", like buy a plate.

No chap my shop would be my cab, my sweets my petrol. :wink:



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Well Amish Boy buy it like you would a sweet shop, just buy it. The penny has finally dropped now you get it, your moment of enlightenment, YOU BUY IT LIKE ANY OTHER BUSINESS.
Then you can join in, HAPPY DAYS ARE HERE AGAIN


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Well Amish Boy buy it like you would a sweet shop, just buy it.

Well I will when I get my free plate, like you did.

As hopefully will many more fully licensed drivers get their's as the de-limit bangwagon rolls on. :wink:

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