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 Post subject: AMISH BOY SUSSEX
PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 6:29 pm 
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I think my work here is almost done. The AMISH BOY from Sussex is ready to leave the sanctuary, step forward AMISH BOY you are about to enter the real world, all that is left is for you to carry your little pot of gold thro the gates and find a TAXI MASTER who will trade your gold for the key to even bigger riches, go forward with pride for you are now ready to become a CABBIE.
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 Post subject: Re: AMISH BOY SUSSEX
PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 6:31 pm 
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I think my work here is almost done.

Not much of a grafter then are you? :?

Bit like many existing plate-holders, love talking but hate working. :wink:

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I think lack of land is the reason why Tesco's don't have umpteen shops in your area, not becuase there is a numbers restriction. [-([/quote]

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No Amish Boy if you knew the story which is in the news today, Tesco wanted to change an existing shop. They tried to use a Carpet Shop to front a new shop outlet because they thought that would get passed as it is considered low impact retail, then convert to a Tesco Express which is high impact, but someone left the plans lying around and a copy got sent to the Council who refused the planning application. Tesco went to Court and lost. The Court ruled the area did not need another supermarket or convenience store. Now do you see limits are quite normal, justifiable and acceptable. The political thinking has changed. Try to keep up to date with the news, I know Amish Boy probably does not agree with TV and radio being far to modern but it should be in tomorrows news papers.


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Well as you don't know too much about licensing law then I think a debate into the pro's and con's of planning law is a tad pointless.

But high impact and low impact is akin to driving a TX or a Skoda. :wink:

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Sussex wrote:
Well as you don't know too much about licensing law then I think a debate into the pro's and con's of planning law is a tad pointless.

But high impact and low impact is akin to driving a TX or a Skoda. :wink:


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Amish Boy, you don't know the story then, not heard or seen the news today. Perhaps it did not register with you as it is something happening outside your very little sphere of interest. Or perhaps something you don't like to hear beacuse it invalidates you argument, you shut it out, hope no-one hears it or makes the connection. Amish Boy has an osterich gene. Licensing and Planning go hand-in-hand. Amish Boy goes foot-in-mouth.


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T, how the hell has slavery been abolished???????????? when drivers have to work more than 70 hours a week and for a lot less than the minimum wage £2.00 an hour in some cases and that's if there lucky, some owners are exploiting the drivers, a Mr Sutcliffe of the DFT has already said that if the driver does not own any of the equipment and is just a driver, he cannot be self employed and is by law entitled to the minimum wage, do you pay your drivers?? answers on a postage stamp please


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T, how the hell has slavery been abolished???????????? when drivers have to work more than 70 hours a week and for a lot less than the minimum wage £200 an hour in some cases and that's if there lucky, some owners are exploiting the drivers, a Mr Sutcliffe of the DFT has already said that if the driver does not own any of the equipment and is just a driver, he cannot be self employed and is by law entitled to the minimum wage, do you pay your drivers?? answers on a postage stamp please


fixed it for you :wink:

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skippy41 wrote:
T, how the hell has slavery been abolished???????????? when drivers have to work more than 70 hours a week and for a lot less than the minimum wage £2.00 an hour in some cases and that's if there lucky, some owners are exploiting the drivers, a Mr Sutcliffe of the DFT has already said that if the driver does not own any of the equipment and is just a driver, he cannot be self employed and is by law entitled to the minimum wage, do you pay your drivers?? answers on a postage stamp please


Reply from T: ask them if they would like to be PAYE, all my drivers have that option, but never any takers, they all want to rent for a flat fee and take their chances, no-one needs to own they can rent, its still self employed. There is no shortage of work in this area, plenty of unskilled work for those that want it and at more than the national min. wage. They may tell you, their wife, the taxman etc they only make £2 per hour but only a fool would work for that or believe it.


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Amish Boy do you feel the same when you buy goods in a shop, do you begrudge the shop owner his profit, his right to a livilihood. Did not the owner I worked for desrve a return on his investment in a vehicle, insurance, maintenance etc,. I earnt a good wage, sufficient to buy a house raise a family put some saving by. Then when I got my plate I was able to buy a vehicle insure it etc.. How was I a patsy, I now live in a bigger house than that owner, driver a better car, employ more people, I say thank you to him.


Yes, very good T., but the problem with the vast majority of what you write is that you ignore the difference between a business and a cartel.

I don't begrudge businesses making a return, but cartels are a different matter.

And, in any case, no business has a right to make a profit; you waffle on about poor service and the like, yet on the other hand you seem to think that anyone running a business has a right to a profit.

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No Amish Boy if you knew the story which is in the news today, Tesco wanted to change an existing shop. They tried to use a Carpet Shop to front a new shop outlet because they thought that would get passed as it is considered low impact retail, then convert to a Tesco Express which is high impact, but someone left the plans lying around and a copy got sent to the Council who refused the planning application. Tesco went to Court and lost. The Court ruled the area did not need another supermarket or convenience store. Now do you see limits are quite normal, justifiable and acceptable. The political thinking has changed. Try to keep up to date with the news, I know Amish Boy probably does not agree with TV and radio being far to modern but it should be in tomorrows news papers.


I don't quite get this comparison with Tesco.

Correct me if I'm wrong but as far as I can make out the backlash against Tesco seems to be because of its dominant position in the market tending towards monopoly. And in particular its detrimental impact on smaller businesses.

Yet you laud restricted numbers in the taxi market, which provides a collective monopoly and is detrimental to individual drivers.

From your recent writings I get the impression you're a muti-plate holder in a restricted area, so you're effectively the taxi trade's Tesco - now we know what the T stands for :lol:

So, Mr TaxiTesco, if you're right about Tesco then you're hoist by your own petard. :D

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T, how the hell has slavery been abolished???????????? when drivers have to work more than 70 hours a week and for a lot less than the minimum wage £2.00 an hour in some cases and that's if there lucky, some owners are exploiting the drivers, a Mr Sutcliffe of the DFT has already said that if the driver does not own any of the equipment and is just a driver, he cannot be self employed and is by law entitled to the minimum wage, do you pay your drivers?? answers on a postage stamp please


Reply from T: ask them if they would like to be PAYE, all my drivers have that option, but never any takers, they all want to rent for a flat fee and take their chances, no-one needs to own they can rent, its still self employed. There is no shortage of work in this area, plenty of unskilled work for those that want it and at more than the national min. wage. They may tell you, their wife, the taxman etc they only make £2 per hour but only a fool would work for that or believe it.


So effectively you're complicit in tax fraud Mr TaxiTesco?

And offering your drivers a choice gives the game away a bit because in law they're either an employee or self-employed, so you must be miscategorsing some of them, because it's not really a matter of choosing between whatever you or the driver wants.

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 Post subject: t and s
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you two should be married :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


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T, how the hell has slavery been abolished???????????? when drivers have to work more than 70 hours a week and for a lot less than the minimum wage £2.00 an hour in some cases and that's if there lucky, some owners are exploiting the drivers, a Mr Sutcliffe of the DFT has already said that if the driver does not own any of the equipment and is just a driver, he cannot be self employed and is by law entitled to the minimum wage, do you pay your drivers?? answers on a postage stamp please


Reply from T: ask them if they would like to be PAYE, all my drivers have that option, but never any takers, they all want to rent for a flat fee and take their chances, no-one needs to own they can rent, its still self employed. There is no shortage of work in this area, plenty of unskilled work for those that want it and at more than the national min. wage. They may tell you, their wife, the taxman etc they only make £2 per hour but only a fool would work for that or believe it.


So effectively you're complicit in tax fraud Mr TaxiTesco?

And offering your drivers a choice gives the game away a bit because in law they're either an employee or self-employed, so you must be miscategorsing some of them, because it's not really a matter of choosing between whatever you or the driver wants.



You missed out "workers" Dusty, I think I may be one of those. 8)


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Yet you laud restricted numbers in the taxi market, which provides a collective monopoly and is detrimental to individual drivers.


What about the individual owner driver .............. do you really think its right for them to be included within the "collective monopoly" when they are more like individual drivers.

Again you generalise because your argument doesn't stand up if it were specific ................ look at the situation in Edinburgh, drivers waiting to get a free plate with seemingly the only intention of selling it for £50,000 plus .................... a situation which you applaud.

B. Lucky :D

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Talking about Tesco they have refused to have ranks at any of there stores, so why should we pick up there there should be a mass boycott the punters will soon learn that if the want a cab they will have to go El's wear, I know that either there customer services phone for punters or there is a free phone or call box, but the d ickhead who runs tesco should put ranks in, or tell him yourself terry.leahy@tesco.com


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